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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 06:54 AM
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(Stunning) Here is The Actual Fox Lawsuit Papers !

If you want to see something funny, read this. The 1st 10 pages read more
like a commercial, than they do a lawsuit.

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/ip/foxpenguin80703cmp.pdf

Here are a couple articles about it, one is written by a guy who teaches
constitutional law at Yale law school.

It's Fair to Say Fox's Lawsuit Lacks Balance

by Jay Bookman

In its typically cheeky style, Fox News has placed a billboard right across the street
from CNN's national headquarters here in Atlanta.

"Real Journalism," it reads in tauntingly large letters facing the office windows of
CNN executives. "Fair & Balanced."

That message -- and its placement -- epitomize the rough-and-tough, in-your-face
philosophy that has made Fox such a success. That same attitude was also on
display last spring, when the news ticker outside Fox headquarters in New York
made fun of anti-war demonstrators who were marching past.

"How do you keep a war protester in suspense?" the ticker read. "Ignore them."

"Attention protesters," another line read. "The Michael Moore Fan Club meets
Thursday at a phone booth at Sixth Avenue and 50th Street."

While that's hardly fair and balanced, the Fox audience clearly loves it. It's one of
life's many curiosities, though, that people who love to dish it out often can't take it
in return. It's almost as if the DNA for big mouths and thin skins were on the same
gene. Newt Gingrich used to be my favorite example of that phenomenon, but now
Fox and its marquee star, Bill O'Reilly, have stepped to the front of the line.

More Here:

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0814-09.htm

Don't Use Those Words: Fox News Owns Them

by Jack M. Balkin

Jack M. Balkin teaches constitutional law at Yale Law School.

Fox News is suing comedian and writer Al Franken in the New York courts,
attempting to stop the sale of his forthcoming book, "Lies, and the Lying Liars Who
Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right." Fox claims that Franken may
not use the expression "fair and balanced" because it has been trademarked by
Fox News and that Franken's book would confuse viewers about the source of the
book and about the objectivity of its coverage.

The court papers filed by Fox are particularly colorful, describing Franken as a
"parasite," "shrill and unstable" and as a person whose "views lack any serious
depth or insight." It also accuses him of attacking Fox news personalities when he
was either "intoxicated or deranged" at a press correspondents' dinner in April
2003.

Because Franken's obvious purpose is political parody and satire and, in
particular, parody of Fox News among others, the lawsuit should not succeed.

More Here:

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0814-05.htm


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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:01 AM
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1. After reading the suit
you know: O'Reilly is behind this whole thing.

O'Reilly is the smallest, pettiest, most insecure mouth on the planet. Someone oughta kick his ass and make him like it.
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:16 AM
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2. I Agree wt........
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 07:20 AM by stewert
This is nothing but O'Reilly trying to get revenge on Al Franken for the C-SPAN deal where
he exposed O'Reilly as the lying spinning right-wing idiot he truly is.

It is pure revenge, O'Reilly can dish it out, but he can't take it. Reading that lawsuit is one
of the funniest things I have ever seen. Franken should use it in his next speaking engagement.

Ask yourself why they sued for trademark and copyright infringement, but they did not sue
for slander or defamation ?

Most likely because they know Franken is telling the truth, you can't sue someone for telling
the truth. So they sue for trademark and copyright infringement !

Then O'Reilly cries about people who attack him and Fox news, when he makes a living on
attacking people. It's pure hypocrisy, and O'Reilly is the king of hypocrisy.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:52 AM
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6. I believe Fox isn't suing for Libel because
they just prevailed in a lawsuit against one of their employees using the First Amendment as an affirmative defense against the employee's accusation that Fox forced her to report news which she knew was a lie. Fox's defense is that they can say whatever they want, even a lie, due to the First Amendment.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 09:00 AM
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9. Hell, I think Oh'Really penned the brief
I sure as hell can't believe someone with a degree from an accredited law school would have written something like that.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:16 AM
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12. 'Tis on the menu
Probably some genuine deranged, or intoxicated person will put Bill in the hospital one day I predict.

I think this is so funny, cuz now everyone will want to read the book. Everyone will see FOX News as a
phoney rigged talk show no better than the Jerry Springer show. I love it!
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Ekaterina Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:27 AM
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3. this quote explains it for me......
Remember the old joke about politics being show business for ugly people? Well, right-wing radio is niche entertainment for the spiritually
unattractive.
-- Hendrik Hertzberg


although he references radio you could easily insert TV to include the rabid hyena pack of Faux Views
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TioDiego Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:30 AM
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4. Thank you Stewert.
That made my morning. This is such a fun story. O'Reilly O'Really peed in his chili this time. Ay! Que Pendejo!
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:38 AM
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5. Check This Out !

Here is a quote from O'Reilly's wednesday night talking points, it is so
hypocritical it is stunning.

----

O'REILLY: The main point here is that trying to hurt a business or a person because you
disagree with what they say is simply unacceptable in America. And that message has
been sent by FOX. There's a principle in play. Vigorous debate is embraced by us, but
smear campaigns will be confronted.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,94702,00.html

----

Is he serious ? O'Reilly makes a living trying to hurt businesses and people he disagrees
with, then he cries foul when someone does it to him or fox news. The guy has lost his
fricking mind. He got Ludacris fired by pepsi, and he also called for a boycott of pepsi. That
is two examples right there of him trying to hurt businesses and people he disagrees with.

He also called for a boycott of the french because he disagreed with them. That boycott
only hurts the french people, not the government. Why should the french people be punished
for a political position the government took ?

O'Reilly is either a total hypocrite, or the dumbest person in America, or both.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:56 AM
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7. Is this lawsuit really Fair & Balanced?
Can there be a Fair and Balanced Lawsuit at any time?
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imwatchingem Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:56 AM
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8. "Don't Use Those Words: Fox News Owns Them"
Perhaps that heading is a clue...they want to copyright all words till there is nothing left we can legally say.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 09:40 AM
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10. Tin foil hat time.
That is almost a parody of a law suit, the lawyer who drafted it must have been laughing the whole time. They must know it is without merit and doesn’t have a prayer.

What could the real motive be? So O’Really can tell his drones (aka fans) that he is fighting this outrage with the certainty that they won’t find out that this is a pathetic abuse of the judicial system? Does he think that this suit will help his ratings?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:16 AM
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11. Fox, the Jerry Springer's Jerry Springer
I have to tell you, I love immigrants. They make our
country stronger. But I'm really getting pissed at
Rupert Murdoch...
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:16 AM
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13. Great quote!
"It's almost as if the DNA for big mouths and thin skins were on the same gene."

:7
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:59 PM
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14. It reads like a frickin' self-aggrandizing advertisement -
they ought to be sued for filing this phony sack of crap.

Unfair and imbalanced is what I say!

Thanks for posting stewert, I was hoping it would be online soon.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 04:11 PM
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15. LOL
2nd page of suit:

“Moreover, since Franken’s reputation as a political commentator is not of the same caliber as the stellar reputations of FNC’s on-air talent, any association between Franken and Fox News is likely to blur or tarnish Fox News’s distinctive mark in violation of…”

OMG, what a joke.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 04:18 PM
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16. How about on page 6
"18. O'Reilly himself has become a celebrity and one of America's most trusted sources of information. He is inexorably linked..."
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 04:41 PM
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18. Stellar like Shep Smith's HITTING SOMEONE with his car??
Nothing says "stellar reputation" like a mugshot.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 04:21 PM
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17. this is sad
this sh** will backfire on FOX - displays with stunning clarity what a bunch of pathetic whiny little weasels they are. Unbelievable.
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 05:20 PM
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19. Amazingly cowardly from Fox..But thats a Bully for you
Fox hides behind and feeds hate and ingorance..Like its flagship blowhard O'Reilly fox is a classic bully..In your face and boorish but when someone gets the best of them they cry and sulk and file dumb lawsiuts..Heck O'reially STILL pouts about when Al Franken got the best of him..Fox News is a one note joke with joke newscasters..Im glad they did it..It helped sell more books for Franken
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