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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:39 AM
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Kerry Fans: Help Send W. Back to Crawford for a Permanent Vacation!
Go to http://www.johnkerry.com and contribute to the John Kerry campaign.

1007 miles down, only 441 to go! Regime Change in 2004! Vote John Kerry!

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:40 AM
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1. Until he Talks about bringing the boys he sent to Iraq
home...repealing the patriot act and homeland gestapo. He won't get money or votes from me.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 12:33 PM
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2. Do you think we should abandon people of Iraq? No Dem suggests this.
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 12:35 PM by flpoljunkie
Kerry's position from his website: http://www.johnkerry.com/news/speeches/spc_2003_0710.html


I believe there are four urgent steps that we should take in order to win the peace.


Number one—We increase overall troop strength with more allied troops with the right skills and training.  And that means particularly, that people with Arabic speaking skills, and even, hopefully, Muslims.  Without adequate security, every other peacekeeping goal is at risk.  That means you have to immediately offer NATO a role to give Allies a graceful way to participate.  Without real allies in real numbers, especially Arab-speaking, we are asking our young men and women to bear a needless risk for an length of time that is undescribed.  We also need greater United Nations involvement in the humanitarian and governance transformation. And the world needs to be invested in the outcome in Iraq.


Second, we have to train Iraqis more rapidly to carry out what always was an obvious job—of restoring civil order in the aftermath of the victory.  The police functions have to be provided in an adequate form, we need to protect the people, and guarantee the safety of our own troops in that process.  Such an effort will require international police trainers and mentors as well as military trainers in an accelerated commitment.


Third, we have to lay out immediately and publicly a clear plan for the transfer of power to Iraqis as soon as possible.  The sense of American occupation works against our peaceful goals, works against the transformation of democracy ultimately, works against our troops and their safety, and works against our greater goals in the Middle East.  We promised the Iraqis democracy, but we’re sending mixed signals about really letting them run their own country.


Fourth, we must move more quickly to provide the basic services, such as electricity, and transportation.  Without economic recovery, the gap between the expectations and the reality will be a major retardant on popular support for the United States activities in Iraq.  Peacekeeping is linked to the humanitarian and to the governance transformation and the global investment in that is the fastest, most effective way to be able to strengthen our goals and provide safety to our troops.


We now know that the Administration went to war without a thorough plan to win the peace.  It is time to face that truth and to change course—to share the post-war burden internationally—for the sake of our country, for our standing in the world, and most of all for the young Americans in uniform who cannot be protected from enemy attack by an announcement, no matter how well staged, that hostilities are over.”
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 12:35 PM
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3. "Do you think we should abandon Iraq?"
Should have never gone in in the first place. Kerry put our boys in danger.

All the other points would be moot if he had just said NO.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 12:37 PM
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4. Respectfully, you have not answered the question.
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 12:48 PM by flpoljunkie
Should we abandon the people of Iraq--yet again?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 01:42 PM
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5. The UN should be in charge!
Not the Chimp...not Kerry, not Dean, not you and certainly not me. But again...we should not even be there in the first place.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 04:56 PM
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7. You're really jealous, aren't you?
No offense to Dean, but what's he DONE?

Talk talk talk. As far as doing stuff to help AMERICA, that's all Howie's EVER done. Talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk. That's all.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 05:09 PM
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10. Where did I mention Dean?
I don't remember doing so.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 05:34 PM
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14. Go back in the files a way and you'll remember.
Dean's Kerry-bashers may think they're not being obvious with their slams and slanders, but I remember your work. While you did not mention the ex-governor ex-doctor ex-stockbroker in this thread, you have been pro-Dean for quite a while on DU. On DU1, you proudly described working a table at a Dean meet-up in Seattle.

PS: This doesn't mean I don't like you or your candidate, GBNC. I just don't like you smearing mine.

Most importantly: I also remember a post you wrote describing your late uncle who served on Corregidor and was taken prisoner at the beginning of WW2. My grandfather's cousin also was taken prisoner then. He died in a POW hospital in Japan, a couple of months before the liberation. We may have more in common than our rhetoric reveals.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 04:57 PM
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9. DAH!!!! He wasn't the ONLY one voting!
he was not President then!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 05:10 PM
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11. His voice would have gone far with others.
He caved.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 04:56 PM
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8. You are DEFINITELY NOT a Kerry supporter
why put your 2 cents in this thread? BTW - HE did not send any boys to Iraq - we don't want your money or your vote!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 05:12 PM
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12. He won't get either.
Why do Kerry supporters get so testy over his war vote? Could it be because they know it was wrong? I have not heard any defence yet that could possibly absolve him of that vote.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 05:15 PM
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13. What would Dean have done?
go ahead spin me.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 04:54 PM
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6. Kerry's the man with a plan.
John Kerry has the brains, experience, and NETWORK for sending the unelected prick we know as the Little Turd from Crawford back where he belongs.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 09:11 PM
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15. Only 274 to go.
On behalf of John Kerry, a kick up the backside of The Little Turd from Crawford.
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