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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:00 PM
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Did anybody hear John Kerry on NPR this morning?
I did and I have to say it seemed he was unapologetic about his vote in support for Bush's Iraq war. He came across as just stuffy and he was playing it too middle of the road. What really turned me off about his defending his vote for Bush's adventure into Iraq. I am sure he would have been the same way with his support for the Patriot Act!

John
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:03 PM
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1. I cought the tail end of it
I liked his comment on the arrogance of the administration.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:05 PM
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2. I remember that but...
I am came away from it just not impressed. I guess it helps to be skeptical especially when somebody voted in support of the madman's foreign policy and attack on civil liberties.

John
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:06 PM
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3. Heard the same Broadcast;Did not Draw YOUR Conclusions.
Edited on Mon Aug-18-03 05:07 PM by GalleryGod
Those who've actually fought in wars have a different perspective on life & Senate votes.:puffpiece:
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:10 PM
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4. Why the hell did he vote for going to Iraq????
<eom>

John
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 08:33 PM
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14. Well, there WAS a concern about noo-kyu-lar weapons and whatnot then...
... and we as a nation really didn't realize yet that all the claims were bullshit, and that we'd believe anything by Saddam Hussein. I mean, hindsight is always 20/20.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:14 PM
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6. Only those that have fought in a war
can have the "correct" prosective?

It does not take being a soldier to know that the Iraq slaughter was wrong.

:eyes:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:23 PM
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8. I agree
That's why my neighbor and my brother, both Viet Nam vets, were opposed to the Iraq adventure.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:12 PM
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5. He's a weasel. And his "excuse" for Bush's war is pathetic.
eom.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:22 PM
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7. I heard it on the way in to work.
Frankly, I was not impressed. I decided that if Kerry wins the nomination, I could vote for him, but I couldn't actively support him with donations or time.
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:44 PM
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9. Sounded uninspired and uninspiring
I tried not to let my disappointment at his recent swipe at Gore get in the way of my perceptions. Didn't end up really disliking him, so much as feeling "this guy's a loser." No fire in the belly, can't lead us to victory.

CYD
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 06:44 PM
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10. The guy said he did what he thought was in the best interest of USA.
Isn't that what a public servant is supposed to do? Listen for yourselves:

http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/democrats2004/kerry.html

Kerry supporters like the guy because he is a calm, tough thinker. Rove hates the guy because Kerry is going to beat Bush like a drum. Why so many DUers agree with Rove and the support the Little Turd from Crawford is beyond me.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 08:30 PM
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13. Could you please clarify that?
Was it in the best interest of America or Bush and his buddies? If Kerry was voting in the best interest of America, he would have voted no on Iraq and the Patriot Act.

John
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 11:40 PM
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15. The President told him Iraq was a threat.
Clinton told Kerry and others in Congress that Saddam Hussein was part of Terror Inc in 1998. Sorry you didn't get cc'd on the memo which went on to describe WMD, drug trafficking, and international terrorism sponsored by the Butcher of Baghdad, Poppy Bush's business partner, Saddam Hussein. So, if Kerry thought he was a danger then, he probably thought he was a danger now, after 9-11.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 06:56 PM
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11. I need to stop listening to Kerry's BS excuses...
He just pisses me off everytime he explains his vote.

MONTAGNE: You voted for the resolution authorizing the war in Iraq. Would you vote 'yes' again on that resolution if you knew then what you know now and, most particularly, the failure so far to find weapons of mass destruction.

KERRY: That's a question that just doesn't even fit in the context of where we are today. We have to vote where we vote. My vote was the correct vote: for the president of the United States to have a threat of force to hold Saddam Hussein accountable to the very agreement he signed. But we all had a right as Americans to expect that the president of the United States would use that authority properly. He did not, in my judgment. He did not do the hard work of diplomacy. He did not make real the meaning of the words 'last resort.' He didn't build the kind of international coalition they had talked about and promised. They didn't do the work of putting America in the strongest position possible in building the consent and legitimacy of their effort. And they certainly didn't do what I and others warned them to do, which was make certain that you have a plan for winning the peace if indeed you do this because that's the difficulty, not winning the war. So it was the correct thing to do to protect the security of the United States to go to the U.N., but we should have had a smarter, more effective carrying out of diplomacy in order to put America in a stronger position.


Kerry was supposed to oppose the war if it wasn't a last resort. Here he says it wasn't, and yet he clearly supported the invasion anyway. And he didn't vote to give the president the "threat of force" he voted on a bill which authorized Bush to invade whenever he wanted.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 07:06 PM
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12. Totally unimpressed by his weaseling.
He didn't answer the question about whether, knowing what he knows now, he would still vote for BushCorp's war. Just blathered around it while saying he would try to internationalize it if elected. Didn't expect anything better from the ambitious sellout.
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