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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:25 PM
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United against Bush?!
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 05:24 PM by gully
I propose, as a show of unity that those who share the "Any One But Bush" (in the end) philosophy show their 'colors' by changing their avatar for about a week...

Anybody else in?

I think in the end most of us are UNITED in the battle against the Bush junta.

http://www.anybodybutbush.info/

I would ask that we respect those who abstain from the ABB position...

And, also ask that said abstainers respect ABB DU-ers in the mean time

Also, Im not at all interested in a debate here.

Here is the official position of DU...

"In the general election, Democratic Underground will strongly support whoever wins the Democratic presidential nomination.

We consider every single Democratic candidate to be highly qualified and fit to serve as president of the United States. Furthermore, we consider every single Democratic candidate to be a vast improvement over the current White House resident. The Democratic nominee will have our support. Please see our message board rules for more information.

I share this position personally, anybody else?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:31 PM
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1. Us old folk need to be told that you go to "options" on page 1
Do you expect us to remember how we got the avatar in the first place.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:31 PM
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2. I'm with ya on the ABB
Not sure I wanna change my avatar though. I'm quite attached to the GGB. :)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:32 PM
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3. I love your sig!
:bounce:
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:35 PM
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6. To change Avatar...

Click on options
Edit profile
Following images at left
and then AnyOne But Bush...

Or type anyone.gif into the 'avatar' slot...
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:04 PM
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23. Thank you! I "liberated" it from Bartcop (I think)
I am sadly lacking in the photo-shop gene. :(
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:32 PM
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4. I'll switch for a week.
Anything to show my unity with the wonderful people here. Then zI'm switching back to my beloved "dollar bill" flag.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:37 PM
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8. Aw, c'mon it's only for a week???
cheap beggard that I am...!
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:33 PM
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5. There!
How's that?
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:35 PM
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7. Yea !!!!
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:37 PM
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9. Great idea.
UNITED AGAINST BUSH!
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:40 PM
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10. Hey, can I change the op title. I like that better?
Thanks!
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #10
34. No Problem.
;-)
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:40 PM
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11. Sorry, if you want to show DU unity
use my logo. If you want to win an election you have to run FOR something, not against someone. Ask Rick Lazio, he ran on the platform that he was NOT Hillary Clinton, big mistake. This ABB logic is the same thing. We have to stand for what we believe in. "Anyone But..." only works for Nadarites.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:42 PM
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13. Have you seen the user rules?
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 04:48 PM by gully
look at election 2004.

That clarifies the position of DU. In addition, I asked that you respect OUR right to show our unity, and I will in turn respect your positon. Also, Naderites argue against the ABB position so I'm confused?

Thanks! :D

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html#election

This is key;

"In the general election, Democratic Underground will strongly support whoever wins the Democratic presidential nomination.

We consider every single Democratic candidate to be highly qualified and fit to serve as president of the United States. Furthermore, we consider every single Democratic candidate to be a vast improvement over the current White House resident. The Democratic nominee will have our support. Please see our message board rules for more information."

I fully respect your right to abstain...
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #13
24. Have you seen my logo?
It stands for those rules. The Democratic
Candidate. Your logo specifies "anyone". Sorry, this aint California.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:07 PM
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26. I get it...
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 05:11 PM by gully
But, I think the ABB logo also stands for "the Democratic Nominee" more so then the DU logo does...I don't want to endorse DU but the Democratic candidate KWIM?

*Especially as a Dem is going to be the only person with a shot at Bush.*

Thanks for the clarification though.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:41 PM
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12. OK I'm in
I guess since I'm considering leaving the teaching profession, I can do without the apple for at least a week. I took off my Dean picture from my sig, too. :P
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Great sig line!
Gotta love Molly...
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:54 PM
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15. I'm with ya!
I got rid of my beloved FDR avatar for this. :)
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:54 PM
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16. The Democratic party only has one issue - not Bush?
I don't think it's quite that simple.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:55 PM
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18. Then don't do it.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #18
27. what about winning Congress?
I agree that ABB is important, but I fear we're losing sight of the bigger picture. Bush is NOT as powerful as people seem to think - it's the fact that Republicans have all three branches and most states that's the problem. Bush is one of the parts of the GOP's power, but not the only one.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. Your right...
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 05:56 PM by gully
But, this thread is about the presidency and the position of some DU'ers regarding said presidency...

Point well taken though... Thanks!
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:55 PM
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17. OK
but the late great Paul Wellstone is coming back in one week
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. Oh, yea...
And you know Paul would vote for any of the Dems running!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:57 PM
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20. I'm AABB
Almost Anybody But Bush

I was ABB for a few weeks, but Lieberman pushed me over the edge from ABB to AABB.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:59 PM
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22. Darn...
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 05:00 PM by gully
Lookey here though, Joes not all that bad. Really :shrug:

Even I want to puke when I see him talk about Iraq, but he's got a solid voting record on many issues...

http://www.globalstewards.org/democrats.htm#sum

Think about it won't you?

I respect your right to abstain however.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #22
50. Lieberman's voting record on "the issues" is brought up often in defense..
...of his ability to still qualify as a Democrat. Truth is that it does not matter. His record may give a good indication of how he might vote if he continued to be the Senator from the state of Connecticut. However his public support of the PNAC agenda, to the extent of even saying it was wrong of his fellow Democratic candidates to oppose an illegal war based on lies, is an indication of how he would act as President of the United States.

And a so-called "Democrat" continuing with the fascist PNAC agenda is something I absolutely cannot support.

I'm with Walt and his dragon on this one. Almost Anybody But Bush.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:38 PM
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52. That's cool...
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 06:41 PM by gully
To each his own. I almost felt I should have a Lieberman disclaimer. But his latest polling numbers are 4% in New Hampshire, so I'm not too concerned. And, I don't want to alienate those that support Joe Lieberman because (he has some very good qualities) that are lacking at present in the OO?! *long sentence I know*

Edited to add: I don't think Joe would have instigated the Iraqi war given he was in the same postion as Shrub. But this is not a debate thread so??? And, we can't possibly know that.

~peace to you in your decision.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #20
25. No doubt.
Imagine ABB-even a "pro war anyone"?
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. Perhaps
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 05:17 PM by gully
you could start your own AABB thread here?...And use whatever logo you like? But the DU logo may not be sufficient as they have stated that they will support the Democratic nominee (period)...

I would like to keep this thread on topic though. mmmk?
:hi:
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finecraft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:58 PM
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21. Count me in!
Couldn't think of nicer company!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #21
38. anyone but bush* (quietly)
We shouldn't say it too loudly
or they'll stick us with Lieberman for sure.
You know they want to.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. I'm with ya SSSHHH! oops I mean ssshhhh...
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bobd Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:11 PM
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28. Done!
Good idea.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:14 PM
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29. I'm good for a week...
I love music, but I hate * more!
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:17 PM
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31. Done
Even Lieberman is better than Bush
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. Damn right he is,
But, I'm holding my hopes out for someone else personally.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:19 PM
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33. Works fer me! My other one was kinda boring anyway. :-)
:D
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:24 PM
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36. I'm in
:thumbsup:
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:27 PM
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37. Ok. Peace out.
:thumbsup:
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chadm Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:58 PM
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40. Thanks for legitimizing the Green position
Now every post you make will help our cause.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. Actually I'm legitimizing the Democratic position...
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 06:12 PM by gully
However, here's a discussion board for you...for future reference...

http://www.gp.org/committees/forums/phpBB2/index.php

Not taking your bait this time, but thanks for the opportunity to decline... B-)
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:23 PM
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45. LMAO!
:thumbsup:
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. The position of DU is to support THE Democratic nominee
in the 2004 election. It doesn't necesarily mean the Greens have to be happy about it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:06 PM
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42. I'm in
And after that I'm switching to the Smart Women Vote Democratic for the duration, I think Eleanor would support that.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. I'm in for a week
important to reaffirm the common cause no matter who your candidate. Thanks for the thread
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:24 PM
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46. I won't change it - advise?
I'm an outside observer - I might add it to my sig line, as it is exactly what I'm hoping for.
Comments?
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. What's there to talk about?
You don't want to do it. No problem. That's cool.:D
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:30 PM
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49. What ever your comfortable with...
:D
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:25 PM
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47. I'll think about it.
I'm on the fence right now. Anybody But Bush has usually been my opinion though. Cool idea.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #47
51. Thanks for considering... :)
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 06:42 PM by gully
:) You can always change your mind later...no matter what you decide...
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:39 PM
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53. I'm a sucker for "Solidarity"
....and it is how I feel anyway. Anyone but Bush.

Just now I have a vision of Sally Field ( Norma Rae) holding up the UNION sign. Gives me chills just thinking about it.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. Done!
:kick:
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:43 PM
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55. Ok...a week
nt
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. Cool!
:7
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. I've been using it and plan to continue until after the convention
The Democratic Convention, that is. Nothing is more important than getting rid of the cretins that are destroying this country.
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wherewingstakedream Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 07:59 PM
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57. Well hell yes!
I'm in ! I know Paul Wellstone would agree and is with us in spirit.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:11 PM
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59. I was Elvis Nixon but ABB is my new one
Click on options
Edit profile
Following images at left
and then AnyOne But Bush...
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:16 PM
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60. agreed and done n/t
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devarsi Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:57 PM
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61. Kicked and Changed!
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 08:58 PM by devarsi
ThoughI wish it said "Anyone But A Bush" a subtle, but enormous difference.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. Wow, amazing sig line :) Thanks devarsi...
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 09:09 PM
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63. Sounds good to me
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 09:12 PM by texasblueeyes
ABB all the way!


edited to change what I thought I had changed. :silly:
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:44 PM
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64. Kickin it up for the night owls
:kick:
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:11 PM
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65. Shameless Kick
:kick:
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