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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:32 PM
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Poll question: Which Democrat would you vote for?
This is a list of all the Democratic Presidents from 1900-2000. If all of these former Presidents were running in a primary who would you vote for?

add: I may get the years wrong because I am unsure what year FDR and JFK died.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:34 PM
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1. Oi! That's a tough one!
I picked FDR, but I could easily have gone for most of the rest as well. :)
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:34 PM
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2. I picked Truman
but would be glad to have any of them as President again.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:25 PM
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16. FDR, and it was easy for me.
While I love a lot of the others (especially Clinton and JFK), FDR was truly great.

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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:40 PM
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3. kick
:kick:
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:51 PM
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6. another kick
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:42 PM
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4. Carter especially now
I think he would be a more effective president after all of these years and his stands on human rights and peace are what we need more than anything today.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:43 PM
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5. What about him reviving this economy?
I know Nixon left Carter with a horrible economy, but he did create jobs and cut the budget deficit but not by much.
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:54 PM
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7. Carter Inherited a WORLDWIDE recession
Ford couldn't do anything about it either.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:55 PM
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9. I know
what do you think I meant by Horrible economy?
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:59 PM
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12. Oh...I know...I didn't mean anything by that
I was just adding that it was a worldwide recession - not just a U.S. phenom like our current deficit-inspired economy.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:56 PM
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27. Current economic problems are now on a world level
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:54 PM
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8. You should learn more about Carters human rights record
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 05:00 PM by Bombtrack
http://www.fair.org/media-beat/940921.html

Jimmy Carter and Human Rights: Behind the Media Myth
By Jeff Cohen and Norman Solomon
Media Beat, September 21, 1994

Jimmy Carter's reputation has soared lately.

Typical of the media spin was a Sept. 20 report on CBS Evening News, lauding Carter's "remarkable resurgence" as a freelance diplomat. The network reported that "nobody doubts his credibility, or his contacts."

For Jimmy Carter, the pact he negotiated in Haiti is the latest achievement of his long career on the global stage.

During his presidency, Carter proclaimed human rights to be "the soul of our foreign policy." Although many journalists promoted that image, the reality was quite different.
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Carter was a pretty lousy president by dem standards

although everything he gets blamed for wasn't his fault, he still was clearly not an adept day-today administrator, and did make some major bad choices- economically, domestically, and internationally.

He does come off as, and may be a very, very, nice guy though
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In order my top choices would be
1- Kennedy, 2- FDR, and the rest all have serious flaws that bar them from what I would classify as great presidents
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:56 PM
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10. FDR! FDR! FDR! FDR!
Have I mentioned I like FDR?
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:57 PM
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11. Truman! Truman! Truman!
I actually like all of them except maybe LBJ.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:01 PM
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13. who would have guessed FDR and Carter neck to neck
Love em both.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:40 PM
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14. FDR LIHOP!!
He knew Pearl Harbor was going to be bombed and he Let It Happen On Purpose.

That takes him out of the league of great Presidents right there, and sends him
down to the nether regions.

He could have given our sailors there the information they needed to defend themselves, the attack would still have been an act of war. Allowing them to
be killed as they were was a betrayal, and was not even necessary to FDR's
plans to get the US into the war.

Why must the case for war always be built on lies?


Carter just keeps looking better and better.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:22 PM
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15. kick
:kick:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 09:23 PM
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17. William Jefferson Clinton brought hope and prosperity to Americans
and established a unique working relationship with the U. S. and the rest of the world.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:38 PM
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30. FDR took us out of a much deeper hole.
The Great Depression, fascism and communism overtaking the earth. By the end of his 12 years in office, we had recovered economically, had a whole new net of social security (including, of course, Social Security), and had the upper hand in the world.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 09:33 PM
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18. Wilson.
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 09:34 PM by poskonig
If one subtracts the racist crap, he sure got a lot accomplished. He won a World War, got a ban on child labor, an eight hour workday, established the FED, the Federal Trade Commission to fight trusts, lowered tariffs, signed the federal income tax amendment into law and passed a graduated income tax, and passed women's suffrage.

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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 09:39 PM
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19. There should be an all of the above choice!
Id vote for all of them without question..Sigh! I wish we had any of those guys over ANY republican and MOST OF ALL the current one who just enjoys playing leader on occasion
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 09:41 PM
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20. FDR
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 09:41 PM
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21. FDR, Baby!
Jesse Jackson said it best: "I'd rather have Roosevelt in a wheelchair than Reagan on a horse."
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xequals Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:24 PM
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22. JFK all the way
For me, JFK represents the vast center of the Democratic Party... fighting off communists to his left and racist reactionaries to his right... JFK had to deal with a Democratic party that had very strong, extremist wings.

JFK is the ultimate moderate Democrat... the pragmatic/visionary, center-left, fiscally responsible populist ...etc. It's the type of Democrat I prefer most.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:27 PM
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23. You forgot Al Gore (2001-2005) and Howard Dean (2005-2013)
:-)
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:31 PM
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24. technically doesn't the 25th ammendment only affect terms served?
so Gore should be 2001-2009 baring a legitmate RE-election in 2004
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:33 PM
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26. Well, he's retiring.
Had he run (or if he does run), he could win as many elections as needed to actually serve two terms.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:31 PM
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25. fdr, but i like them all
seeing all those names up there shows what a joke the shit currently in the white house is.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:14 PM
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29. same here...
FDR would be the best Democrat to save us in this current crises. If the Democrats controlled Congress, and if our nation was not in need of immediate assistance I might go with a more moderate Democratic style like Carter or Truman. But the worse times demand the best our party has to offer.
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ScotTissue Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:00 PM
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28. JFK
HArd to decide. FDR has experience in a Depression and a World War (both of which I think we are in).

But JFK had such a combo of talents. Like to see him get a full term.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:56 PM
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31. Bring Back the WPA and the CCC!
FDR, for all his flaws, was a truly great president.
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saoirse Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:57 PM
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32. JFK
Cuz we Irish Catholic homies got each others back!
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SyracuseDemocrat Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:04 AM
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33. LBJ
Becuase he was a fucking incredible president. He was the last Democrat to carry many of the states we now consider Republican.
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fabius Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:50 AM
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35. LBJ would have been the greatest but...
...for Vietnam. Just a lesson to all Presidents about starting wars based on lies.

Despite his war. LBJ was still pretty great. Whereas, Shrub has absolutely NO redeeming qualities whatsoever.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:48 AM
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34. kick
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