OK, Not A BFEE Hit (Maybe) Let's List The BFEE 'Convenient' Deaths Then...

Just for starters:

Jim Hatfield = Author of "Fortunate Son'
Cliff Baxter = Enron related suicide
David Kelly = Iraq War related suicide
John O'Neil = 9\11 related death (In the towers)
Mel Carnahan = Election 2000 accidental death
Paul Wellstone = Election 2002 accidental death
Tom Daschle = Athrax attempt
Patrick Leahy = Anthrax attempt

And this is just a couple of minutes worth of remebering.

Now add DeMello = He was there to watch out for the interests of the Iraqi people. Can't have that now can we???

C'mon folks, add to the list. We all know there are many more. It's just amazing all these damned coincidences that seem to suit the purposes of the BFEE so well, no???

:grr::nuke::mad:

Its how the incidents themselves benifit BFEE.

Hell, let's not forget Ambassador Wilson's wife, BTW!

That was a DEFINITE warning to others who would fuck with the BFEE!!!

:nuke::nuke::nuke:

:grr:

at this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=202796

The Bush Criminal Empire (BCE)

... the Bush Crime Cabal, ie... career appointments to bureaucratic positions in the past by Poppy, et al, for the purpose of smoking out whistleblowers before they blow the whistle on the BFEE, BCE, BCC...

La Famiglia Arbusto

Bush Family Mafia

but I know of two which seem beyond dispute and which have been noted by two Time magazine reporters in their book Outlaw Bank: A Wild Ride into the Secret Heart of BCCI. (Jonathan Beaty and S.C. Gwynne)

In late July and early August of 1991 - "a reporter for the Financial Times..named Anson Ng...was found dead in his apartment in Guatemala City...The story was recounted by Senator Alan Cranston before the Kerry subcommittee: 'according to people who talked by phone with Ng in the days before his death, the British journalist mentioned that he was working on a quote, big story, unquote, RELATED to BCCI and GUATEMALA...the murder seems to be the work of professional hit men...Apparently a silencer was used in the killing, which was done by a single bullet wound to the head...I am told that Ng's head was wrapped in a towel and his body left in the bathroom...consistent with efforts to keep the murder a secret for a period of time. According to those closest to Ng, a set of documents were stolen from his desk.'" pp223-4

"...on Aug. 10, a Washington, DC freelance writer named Danny Casolaro, who had also been working on BCCI as part of a larger story, was found dead in a..W.VA motel room. He was discovered in a bathtub surrounded by a pool of blood. Thought it was immediately ruled a suicide, there were enough unanswered questions that the press jumped all over the story. He has supposedly killed himself by slashing his wrists---except that the cuts had been phenomenally deep, all the way through the tendons. There was also evidence that someone else had been in the room with him. 'It looked like someone tried to wipe up the blood on the floor and slid the towels under the sink,' one of the motel's housekeepers said...by coincidence...ten days prior to his death casolaro had met with Beaty...Casolaro had wanted to compare notes and get advice on how to sell his idea for an investigative story...the two had discussed BCCI at length..." p224

..

across the middle east. Bush claimed he didn't know Kamal Adham, who, with KHALID BIN MAHFOUZ... (you all know that name by now, right? in biz with Thomas Kean, head of the 9-11 invest. committee until three weeks before Kean's appt., 11% investor in Dubya's Harken, to keep it afloat, bro-in-law of Osama, and part of one of the most powerful families in S.A., listed by the UN as a sponsor of terrorism after the Cole bombing, involved in funneling money to terrorists via Islamic charities)

..Bush's Justice dept stalled an investigation into BCCI, btw, and the NY district atty, Robert Morgenthau, was the one who had to actually go after the crooks.

he wasn't a mainstream reporter and his death never got the attention it deserved.

..and as time has passed since I first heard of this, so do I.

Guatemala is an interesting place for the murder of Ng, considering that it is now known that BCCI was used by the Iran-Contra crowd to do their black ops in Guatemala.

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The "bought party" used corporate money to force Carnahan and Wellstone to run tougher races than they would have had to run if they were only up against unbought opponents. A few less plane trips for either Carnahan or Wellstone, a little less frantic the pace, and neither man would be dead today -- in all likelihood. So GOP capitalist crony politics very well could have cost these good men (and some of their relatives and friends) their lives.

Regarding the original list, which by the way is a shorter list than most, the * Administration is at the VERY least, very 'LUCKY', no???

:shrug:

Dems were very unlucky there, and I blame Republican money machine politics for the added risk that these men faced above and beyond the issues.

The David Kelly thing is hurting poodle-boy and his master Bush.

Not sure what Cliff Baxter would have said, but it might not have played well for the Bushies.

I think where the Bushies are the luckiest is in the news stories that have died untimely deaths.

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John Heinz (yes, that John Heinz)
Hale Boggs (Cokie Roberts' dad)
Wm Colby
Wm Casey
Lori Klausutis (?)
Some folks at ChoicePoint and Diebold
Salem bin Laden

And here's VoxNYC's list, which repeats some of mine.http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_body_count.html


Eloriel

And they caused a helicopter dispatched to check out
John Heinz plane to crash into it ?

And they made sure that Hale Boggs plane got lost in Alaska ?

They just keep killing everybody and getting away with it.

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William Colby

This former CIA director disappeared in an apparent boating accident, and a body was later discovered (minus the life jacket Colby's friends insisted he always wore while boating) and buried promptly. John DeCamp, a lawyer from Lincoln, Nebraska, and Colby's close friend and confidant, said Colby's death was not an accident. He stated that Colby was prepared to disclose that missing P.O.W.'s were working for a dope smuggling operation orchestrated by General Colin Powell, Pentagon official Richard Armitage, and George H. W. Bush.

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From: http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/iran-contra/bodies.shtml

Nothin ta see here, move along...

whom Bush I so hated and feared that he tried
to appoint him Defense Secretary in 1989.

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat:

Birdman and HalfManHalfBuisit to the rescue!!!

:shrug:

Nobody outside of the usual suspects on this board
could possibly take that seriously.

http://web1.ami-admin.com/perl/trackimage.pl?I=53153&H=weeklyworldnews%2Ecom&Image=http%3A%2F%2Fweb1%2Eami%2Dadmin%2Ecom%2Fimages%2F45452%2Ejpg

One sentence mocking dismissals are always the most profound.

is this true?

peace

Wouldn't want any pravda employees getting injured in a BFM attack.

Anybody know if it's true???

:shrug:

And the brothers Hussein, whose "brave firefight" saved the US from having to explain themselves in court.

Anybody remember the 9/11-connected woman accused of making fake ID's for the hijackers who was mysteriously offed when her car "exploded" or some such?

Perhaps the WR Grace executives from this thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=5471&forum=DCForumID43

They never did figure out exactly how that fire started, did they??? Found gasoline on what was left of her clothing, and an accelerant, and implied she might have been killed by terrorists to silence her before her testimony in court the next day.

Question: WHICH TERRORISTS??? Ours, or theirs, or is it all the same now???

:shrug:

Link: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/021202_ns_terrorcrash.html

Link: http://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security/Archives/Archive_04/wwwboard/messages/158.html

Link: http://www.sierratimes.com/02/02/15/arjj021502.htm

Link: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2002/ap021302.html

11 inside of 5 months, right after the anthrax scare.

Harvard Professor Missing
By Douglas Belkin - Boston Globe Staff and
Jenny Jiang - Globe Correspondent
11-21-01

A world-renowned Harvard scientist and expert in highly contagious and deadly viruses mysteriously disappeared in Tennessee early last Friday, leaving a rental car on a Memphis bridge.

Don C. Wiley was in town to visit relatives and attend the annual meeting of the scientific advisory board of St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital. Police said there were no signs of foul play, just the car with the keys in the ignition on a bridge that spans the Mississippi River. Police found the car five hours after Wiley left a dinner at a posh hotel several blocks from the bridge.

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In Cambridge, Wiley's wife, Katrin Valgeirsdottir, said she was planning to fly down on Friday to meet her 57-year-old husband with their children, ages 7 and 10. He also has two other children, ages 26 and 34, she said. ''He would never vanish. He wouldn't commit suicide,'' she said. ''I have no idea what has happened.''

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Memphis police Lieutenant Joe Scott said that witnesses described him as being in a good mood when he left the dinner. ''No one detected that he was despondent or was having any difficulties in any way,'' Scott said.

At 4 a.m. Friday, police found Wiley's rented Mitsubishi Galant on the Hernando DeSoto Bridge, which links Tennessee to Arkansas. Memphis police said the doors were unlocked, the key was in the ignition, and the hazard lights had not been turned on. The car had a full tank of gas.

http://www.rense.com/general17/topdeadlycontagious.htm

ends, especialy when we find out that thing about Yemen and how he figured out how a bunch of opts were using the secrecy of the Sauds, Isreal and the US as a foil to keep one from investigating another. In effect giving them carte blanche to do what ever they wanted with out the fear of being investigated. That is why the Sauds were so outraged about being accused. They did their job as far as they could see. The forbiden truth gets into it also, thats where the info about Yemen came from. Anyway here is this one

http://www.thepowerhour.com/postings/preparation-for-911.htm

The mystery surrounding the death of John O'Neill:
The Propaganda Preparation for 9/11
by Chaim Kupferberg

Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), globalresearch.ca , 13 June 2002

CRG's Global Outlook, premiere issue on "Stop the War" provides detailed documentation on the war and September 11 Order/subscribe. Consult Table of Contents

In the immediate aftermath of the destruction of the World Trade Center, the finger of guilt was directed toward the only plausible author for such a sophisticated and ruthless act of terror - Osama bin Laden.
In bits and pieces throughout the late '90's - punctuated by various acts of terror perpetrated against overseas American interests - we were informed that bin Laden had declared war on America by reason of the American military presence on Saudi soil in the wake of the Persian Gulf War. We were told how bin Laden, ensconced in Afghanistan, headed up a world-wide terror franchise whose sophistication and global reach dwarfed that of the Iranian-financed Hizballah or Islamic Jihad (previously, the most widely known of the terror organizations among the masses in the Middle East). From the beginning, this terror entity, al-Qaida, was presented to us as something entirely new in the annals of terrorism - a far-flung, sophisticated empire of terror, possessing - possibly - weapons of mass destruction, while having no clear or viable state sponsor behind it (as the Afghani Taliban were merely its resident protectors).
More disturbingly, Americans were presented with an apocalyptic nemesis whose animosities could not be curbed by any rational political considerations or alignments. In short, by September 11, the United States now had a bona fide enemy - and, as they say in criminal justice parlance, a suspect with motive, means, and opportunity.
John O'Neill
And while I was a bit taken at how quickly - and confidently - the fingers were pointing only hours after the 9/11 bombings, I was positively shaken by the first red flag that popped up. His name was John O'Neill - or more precisely, he is the seam that shows. Dated September 12, in a Washington Post article by Vernon Loeb, it was revealed that O'Neill, who died in his capacity as head of security for the World Trade Center, was also formerly the New York FBI Counterterror chief responsible for the investigation into (snip)

with no warning. Guy is fine according to all reports then suddenly goes beserk runs up to the top of the NYTimes building and jumps out. No record of drugs or depression. It was about a year ago. I tried to stay on the story.......but there wasn't much interest here or in the press for keeping on it.....I wish I remembered his name. It's back in DU1 archives.

There are so many folks who have "committed suicide" or died in strange circumstances it's hard to keep up with them all.

Unlike David Kelly in Britain who thankfully is getting his death reviewed........all these other folks were swept off the front pages........and never make it even into the footnotes in the back pages a few weeks later.

Specialty: energy issues, including Enron.

Times Editor In Death Plunge -- Allen R. Myerson

<http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/46824.htm>

...Police said Myerson, who worked at the newspaper since 1989, leaped from the 16th floor shortly before 10 a.m. and landed on the third-floor roof of a parking garage next door. Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. sent an e-mail to his staff, informing them of Myerson's death. "As with any family, we're called on to endure our share of tragedies," Sulzberger wrote. "This is one of those times and our support for one another will help all of us get through it."
Myerson, who edited "The New Rules of Personal Investing: The Experts' Guide to Prospering in a Changing Economy," was said to be in reduced financial straits. He and his wife, Carol Marie Cropper, recently sold their home in tony Montclair, N.J., and moved to smaller digs in Glen Ridge, according to sources at The Times. Colleagues also said Myerson, the assistant business editor for weekends, would ask to see the real-estate classified ads before they were made public because he intended to move to Manhattan - to split from his wife. (NY Post)

Times editor dies in plunge <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/13076p-12397c.html>
A New York Times business editor plunged to his death yesterday from the top floor of the newspaper's Times Square headquarters. Stunned colleagues of Allen Myerson, 47, said he arrived at the W. 43rd St. building around 9:25 a.m., said hello to a colleague, left a note on his desk on the third floor and then went to the 16th floor. Once there, Myerson opened a window, climbed out onto a parapet - and jumped, Times staffers said. His body landed on the roof of a nearby garage.

"There was no sign of trouble with him," a Times reporter said. "Everybody in business is shocked." The death was being investigated as a suicide, police spokesman Sgt. Kevin Hayes said. Cops said that he left behind a note to his widow with instructions of how to deal with his estate. (NY Daily News)

IIRC, he was in Pakistan and following the money trail.

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Jake Horton

He was the senior vice-president of Gulf Power, a subsidiary of Southern Company, a cohort of Enron in the energy industry, and a major contributer to the Bush agenda. According to reporter Gregory Palast, Horton knew of the company's appalling accounting practices, and "... had no doubt about its illegal campaign contributions to Florida politicans - he'd made the payments himself. In April of 1989 Horton decided to come clean with state officials, and reserved the company jet to go confront company officials. Ten minutes after takeoff the jet exploded.

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From: http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/enron/bodies.shtml

There are just SOOOOOoooooooo many coincidences, no???

Right! :mad:

on edit: spulling

He said that the U.N. people had made a conscious decision to distance themselves from U.S. protection, from any outward association with U.S. forces. That the rationale for this was the antagonism of the Iraqis vis a vis the U.S. forces. That, otoh, the U.S. forces were the only protection available, so the U.N. decision was foolhardy and consequently INVITING what happened.

Haha, Kofi ANNAN just said "mistakes have been made BY THE COALITION and by (everybody else). I don't want to get into finger-pointing."

There's that no-finger-pointing again.

As is well known to everybody but the tragically duped
and those are paid by the Bush family it was not agents
of King Henry II who killed Archbishop of Canterbury
Thomas Becket in the 1170 but the evil knight Sir George
of Bushville who in consort with his henchman Carl of Rove
actually whacked the Archbishop in Caterbury Cathedral.
Bushville used his inluence to silence the numerous witnesses
to the attack and history has incorrectly tarred King Henry
with a crime that he had nothing to do with.

All of these are mere coincidences, right???

Move on folks, nothing to see here...

I think you guys could use a little aluminum in your diet, LOL!!!

:shrug:

Jokes about the Bush administration - bye bye Bobby!

he wrote some political songs ya know.

Which is against the law. Adios Rastaman - thanks to the BFEE.

Move along...

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Many of the ugliest truths about deliberate U.S. abandonment or ordered extermination of POWs are extremely well documented in Monika Jensen-Stevenson's 1990 bestseller, Kiss The Boys Goodbye (Dutton). Stevenson, a former Emmy award winning Producer for CBS News' 60 Minutes, produced mountains of eyewitness statements, documents, and even admissions from Ronald Reagan and other White House officials as well as from intelligence experts in the Pentagon and the National Security Council showing that: the U.S. knowingly left POWs behind in Southeast Asia in 1973; the U.S. government sabotaged at least a half dozen rescue attempts with high probabilities for success; and that, the U.S. government ordered covert operatives to "liquidate" live POWs if sighted.

On Pages 318-323, Stevenson described a failed 1981 POW rescue mission involving the perennial "covert source" (and often hard to fathom) Scott Barnes who wrote a book about the mission entitled BOHICA (Bend Over Here It Comes Again). After passing polygraph and truth serum exams Barnes recounted how he had been issued atropine (nerve gas antidote) injectors as a prelude to entering areas in Laos where POW camps were known to exist. He also states that, once in the region, he was ordered to "liquidate the merchandise." "Merchandise" was the code word for POWs. (NOTE: Atropine was issued to U.S. troops in the Persian Gulf war to counter anticipated Sarin attacks by Iraq).

If Barnes' statement was not enough, his return from the mission was immediately followed by the alleged violent suicide of Army chemical warfare and Sarin gas expert General Bobby Robinson. Local police doubted the suicide findings of the military.

What's more, Robinson was known to have been involved in moving Sarin supplies into the region at the time. Stevenson confirmed this. Sources postulated a cover story to Stevenson that Robinson had been planting Sarin gas to blame the Soviets for its use and thus motivate Congress to increase chemical warfare budgets. Such operations are not unusual in covert operations and are hardly grounds for a suicide. As one source put it to me. "It's much more likely that Robinson could have exposed the use of his Sarin to kill Americans and he had to be killed - especially if he found out what his precious chemical agents were used for."

Several covert warfare veterans have told me that they absolutely believe that Sarin was used under CIA orders against U.S. personnel using deep cover operatives planted in the "Studies and Observation Group" which had reverted to Pentagon control after a 1968 turf battle.

The turf battle may have put SOG back under nominal Pentagon control but it did not stop members of the shadow government and CIA from infiltrating to protect the deepest of dirty secrets. The OSS faction in CIA has no trouble "sheep dipping" people into the Pentagon or any other U.S. Government agency.

Much of the CNN story fell because the Pentagon found no records of Sarin use. Experts like Special Forces Captain John McCarthy, who ran covert ops for CIA while in Special Forces, were quick to point out that the records would all be at Langley and not at the DoD. A CNN electronic bulletin board with more than 2,500 angry responses from veterans pointing out flaws in the retractions was suddenly removed on July 16.

The can of worms was getting legs that wouldn't go away. It was starting to walk off into cyberspace.

How big was the POW problem? Informed sources place the number of American POW's not returned, in spite of Henry Kissinger's outright lies to the contrary, at near 2,500. Add to that the large number of defectors and deserters remaining in the region and the way these men sometimes became intermingled and we see the first part of the reasons for betrayal. McCarthy told From The Wilderness that in 1968 there were known to be some 3,000 deserters living in the Saigon suburb of Cholon alone. Estimates for the whole of Southeast Asia, including Thailand and Laos rose as high as 8,000 according to other sources. Numbers that high would again have brought the legitimacy of the government, and the military into question.

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From: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/POW.html

Now WOULD WE???

:grr::nuke::mad:

But peering in news and history from many different places that one can find on the Internet, I more than believe stories like that. People would question how one could think such things. I know now question why they do not. The shoe fits on the other foot very well when it's the correct one.

Joe C. He was distracting people from Kid Rock's conservative message and BAM! - killed in his sleep by an intestinal disorder.

Obviously the BFEE has developed a new poison.

Try on post #40 for size, huh?

We Americans would never stoop THAT low, now would we???

:shrug:

kick

:kick:

Eloriel