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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:35 PM
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IS MY BRAIN DEVELOPED ENOUGH!
ABC news had a great segment on the development of the human brain the other night. It reported on a study that had followed a group of kids from very young to today 17/18 etc. with MRI’s regularly. They have discovered that the part of the brain that controls impulse, reason, discernment is not fully developed at that age.

So, here is my thought. If a person 17/18 etc. is not able to control impulse, reason discernment, how can they make a decision that they want to fight and die for their country? It seems to me that if we “big brother “ them enough to take care that they don’t drink, smoke until a certain age, we should not allow them to serve in the military until we can prove that their brains are fully developed.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:49 PM
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1. I totally agree with your point, and I would expand that
to include juvenile justice system procedures. The movement to try teens as adults is very strong and growing, particularly with the repukes in charge (including, unbelievably, the death penalty for teens!). Their brains really aren't fully developed, particularly in the areas of impulse control and judgment, and you simply cannot try most teens as adults and give them adult sentences, including, and especially, the ultimate penalty of death.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:55 PM
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3. We are on the same page there too.
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 02:57 PM by brigadoon
I am so glad you responded. There is so much information coming out about retribution as justice when it comes to young people. I feel it is a huge problem in this country.

At to the military question that I presented. I believe that the military recruiters and D.I.s are the biggest and best spin doctors that exist.

I have posed this thought to several and their answer is that we need these young people as cannon fodder for our wars. This is the same mentality that said this is a good war for the Iraqis. What hubris. I will bet you that the Iraqi that lost his brother, son, sister, mother, father, daughter etc. doesn't feel that they benefited at all.

Who is it that feels they have the right to decide when it is good for someone else to live or die?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:02 PM
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5. Usually people that feel they have that right
are those who have no personal stake in it at all, if they had family or friends serving in Iraq or the military I"m sure they'd feel differently. But as long as it's OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS who are serving, well, then, that's okay with them.
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:52 PM
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2. The military doesn't want soldiers with fully developed brains
They'd much rather have cannon fodder who follow orders without question.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:00 PM
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4. LOL!
That about says it all, doesn't it?
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:02 PM
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6. The military understands the 17-18-19 year old is not mature
but the justice system wants us to believe the 12-13-14 year old is mature enough to decide to commit premediated murder...these are two sides of the SAME COIN! :grr:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:03 PM
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7. Not to mention being charged as if they were a developed adult
for crimes most likey committed on impulse .
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:07 PM
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8. that's why middle-aged men in Washington get to decide for them
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 03:08 PM by leftofthedial
the 17-18 year olds can't decide for themselves.

I mean, when I was 18, I would not have come to the conclusion that I needed to go gradually die of thirst ina 130-degree hellhole and get my ass blown off in service of Halliburton's profits. I would have needed someone like Dickless Cheney to make that difficult decision for me.

Glad I could help clear that up.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:10 PM
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9. LOL - Yes, I'm glad you cleared that up too. Thanks for the clarity!
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The_Golden_Child Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:25 PM
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10. Better be careful with this "undeveloped brain" talk...
or Peter Singer and the rest of the modern-day brownshirts will be arguing you are not a human being, at least not fully, and demanding that your parents still have the right to "terminate" you.
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