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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:04 PM
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WTF is Garofolo saying?????
did i hear correctly? did she say she wanted to see a moderate
republican and a moderate dem run together for prez???

someone tell me wtf she's thinking????
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:06 PM
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1. How about Lieb and McCain!
You're right...What the fuck is she thinking!
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:20 PM
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7. jeeze...what a concept...n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:35 PM
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14. Whaddaya mean?! McCain IS Lieberman!
Haven't you noticed? They never appear ANYWHERE TOGETHER??
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:06 PM
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2. A common mistake that the left makes
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 05:08 PM by blm
when they are on the news shows. They reach to prove they are not liberal caricatures, and can show balance. She's trying to show fairness. Too bad the right doesn't deserve it.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:20 PM
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28. I agree - she was was trying to be 'all things to all people'
I hope she REALLY doesn't believe what she said, and from almost everything else Ive heard here say - she doesn't.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:09 PM
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3. Maybe she meant some other Republican instead of Bush.
<eom>

John
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:11 PM
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4. I heard her mentioned that she almost supported John McCain
at the 92 street Y in NYC.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:13 PM
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5. Anybody but Bush!
Actually I would not mind somebody from the right take on Bush and take some of his votes away! Bush and friends are not conservative in the classic sense, they are fascists! Plain and simple!

John
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:22 PM
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8. errr.......that's not quite what i mean when i say ABB
i may never sleep again. mc cain and leiberman OMG>>>.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:29 PM
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31. Or maybe some other Bush besides George??
:shrug:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:16 PM
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6. here's a guess
I didn't hear it, you did, so who knows if this is what she meant, but maybe it was that she sees how out of control the partisanship has become that government has become all-out war. Like the impeachment, the recall, the stolen election, the Fresno joke about bombing the liberals, Ann Coulter, etc. etc. Maybe her plan is the only way to stop the madness.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:23 PM
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9. I trust Garofalo.
I don't think she was swinging towards the dark side. I think it was just a tactical move on her part.

John
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:26 PM
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10. gotta admit I was a bit disappointed in Janeane
she spoke up for all things liberal and then withthe candidates -IMHO (of course )- she blew it.
Dang,girl, whachatalkinabout?

ahh well...guess we'll just to have continue to think for ourselves!
:evilgrin:


Must say tho I am looking forward to Al Franken next week ...with Tucker...hoo baby...

:bounce:

Peace
DR
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:28 PM
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11. She seems....
....to be quite naive to me in some respects. Her admiration for McCain is surprising.

How old is she? I have no idea.
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synthia Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:54 PM
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22. mid thirties??? just guessing
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:15 PM
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26. I almost don't want a weekend
I just can't wait for Al!!!!!

Remember, I used the word 'almost' ...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:31 PM
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12. She was speaking in general terms about a fusion of ideas between
the right and the left.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:34 PM
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13. Yeah, but
Every time we fuse, they move the center to the right.

Enough fusion.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:47 PM
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18. Better fusion than exclusion. We do have to live and work among
those we don't necessarily agree with. Compromise can be win/win. To be in power and yet be open to the viewpoint of your opponent is the objective of a democracy.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:10 PM
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24. Admirable sentiments I often share, but
it's the left which always bends, accomodates, compromises. The result is little better than a slow-tracked right agenda. Enough, already. Time to be as partisan and hardnosed as the bad guys.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:40 PM
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15. While we are fusing,
they are busy lighting fuses.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:41 PM
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16. is that mind reading???
the question was what parts of each of the candidates would you take to make an ideal candidate. she said Dean's eyes (laughter). then she said i'd like a Clark Dean ticket. actually i'd like a moderate republican and a miderate dem" tucker said he's like a candidate boulabaise.

she said nothing about fusion.

do they do transcripts? i can't do the MP3's
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:49 PM
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19. Not "fusion" but "fused." Same difference.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:55 PM
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23. thanks Kahuna, it appears that I also knew what I was talking about
;-)
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:53 PM
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38. ya fuse, ya lose
Be as proudly partisan as the other guys. You have a much better reason to be.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:52 PM
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21. I'm not quoting her verbatim. You asked the question, "WTF was she
talking about." I supposed you needed an interpretation. :shrug:
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:37 AM
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46. i did ask, i apologize for snapping
i missed some of the show because of a customer. did she actually refer to fusing the parties or philosopies easlier?

i guess i was just ticked off after Clarks dipsey dooing around his being a dem. cripes...i live in repub hell and i'm not timid about declaring i'm a dem. his non-partisian ploy is wearing a bit thin and then to hear Janene say that, i got a little hot under the collar.

again, my apologies for taking it out on you.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:47 PM
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17. She said she likes McCain...
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:50 PM
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20. McCain is awful on the issues.
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 05:50 PM by poskonig
Garafolo must not be as informed on the issues as many believe. While McCain gives in a little when it comes to pimping for the tobacco companies or the ethanol lobby, he is ultra-conservative on social and foreign policy issues.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:23 PM
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29. I was just going to make that point myself
McCain is ultra-conservative, not a moderate.
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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:40 PM
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32. Maybe she admires what sort of person he is
He is a war hero and went through hell for his country. While I don't subscribe to his political views, I admire the man. Maybe that is what she meant
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:13 PM
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25. Well I guess she doesn't have any KKK in her background...
so you have to find some way of smearing her.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:17 PM
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27. there will be a transcript...
...and I will make it my task to post it to GD when it shows up. Maybe not 'til Monday.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:39 AM
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47. huh? asking for clarification about an outlandish statement is smearing?
another wtf?
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:25 PM
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30. she went blonde on us
:crazy:
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1opinion Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:10 PM
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33. She is as embarassing as Franken is.
We need more intelligent spokesmen.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:11 PM
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34. How is Franken embarrassing, 1opinion?
He is intelligent and stands up for his beliefs. Please explain yourself.

RR
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1opinion Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:04 AM
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45. He's childish, sophmoric, and not at all funny for a comedian.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:43 AM
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48. Well, his new book is back to #1 at Amazon...
Guess a few people disagree with you.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/new-for-you/top-sellers/-/books/all/ref=pd_ts_h/002-3005593-3386433
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 07:56 AM
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51. He is neither childish nor sophmoric but his humor is not for everyone
childish and sophmoric implies slapstick or lowest-common-denominator humor. Al's humor is more of the sarcastic variety. Aside from Saturday Night Live, where have you seen him?

Or is it the fact that he tears right-wingers a new asshole what bothers you?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:13 PM
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35. I rest my case. n/t
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:56 PM
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39. More intelligent? You mean like W?
Go away
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:28 PM
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36. ugh, typical third party bullshit
I always, amazingly, end up being farther left than these people.

If the democrats and repugs are the same and they are both two far right, how does running two moderates together help anything?

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PARTISANSHIP JG!
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:50 PM
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37. Relax she did a great job overall, she took some of our advice
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 07:53 PM by BEFOREATHOUGHT
and mentioned * being AWOL. I did not like the comment about a Repub and Dem Presidential candidate. (I'm independent) She is an informed pit bull, for our side. Give her a break! I never watch mainstream media, I just used Wonks mp3 of the show, if she can get me to listen she is good:)
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:23 PM
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40. I thing JG should get her own show
Have a young right winger as her foil. She could tear into the facists trying to ruin the USA. I love her courage. The right wing demonize us and question our patriotism and she puts herself in the hot seat. Where the hell are all the "liberals" in Hollywood right now. Where does Demi,Cameron,Will,Brad,Jennifer,etc stand. Or is that a fencepoll stuck up their ass.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:45 PM
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41. the only extremists running for presidency
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 08:46 PM by sujan
are coming from the right. Take a look at reagan, GHB and GWB contrast that with BC, JC, GMcG, WM and MD. Nope nothing extreme about them at all. So I dont buy Miss Garofolo's argument about having a moderate democrat. Democrats are so moderate that this this 'moderation' is mistaken for 'whimpiness'. I say, we need a full blown socialist candidate from the democratic party. Need to pitch extremist of our own to fight theirs. That should scare the voters nough to vote rationally.
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:54 PM
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44. Bush should be labeled "radical ..extremist...far right wing"
This should be emphasized over and over. It's the truth and people need to get the message. I don't think the American media will cooperate, unfortunately.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:48 PM
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42. It's a damn good thing
All of you people are here to help set this foolish "girl" right. I mean how dare she speak her own mind.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:49 PM
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43. lol
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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 07:37 AM
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49. I think it would be a major wake-up call
to most American voters if, say, Kerry or Dean or Clark joined forces with McCain. Think of the impact. Their message would be America First. That this country is in a world of shit and one way to solve that is if all patriots come together to serve the common good. I like the idea.

Go Janeane!
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 07:49 AM
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50. Trouble Is Even Mod Repugs Vote the Party Line
While in concept JG's statement seems like a good idea, the reality is that even moderate republicans like Lincoln Chafee of RI vote the party line the vast majority of the time.

Heck, even supposed moderate republican governors line up behind Bush - Romney in MA, Rowland in CT.

What has to be broken is the Stepford syndrome - elected officials have to think and act for themselves and their constituents and not be bullied into falling in line.
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