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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:21 PM
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New L A Times Poll
Bustamante 35%


Arnold 22%


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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:24 PM
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1. They just reported that on Capitol Gang ... msnbc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Sat Aug-23-03 06:29 PM by meti57b
It will be in tomorrow's Los Angeles Times ... LA Times Poll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edited to add: "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" First good news in this whole unfortunate episode!!!!! Actually, second good news. The first good news was when Bustamante boldly stepped forward and threw his hat in the ring.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:25 PM
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2. That's Great News
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:30 PM
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3. Wow
Cruz must be working hard behind the scenes.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:31 PM
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4. It may be great
But we can't take this for granted.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:32 PM
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5. Agreed. I see more repubs dropping out and endorsing Arnold
in the future.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:32 PM
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6. I agree.
It's a beginning. At this point, are we even sure when the election will be held? I was out of town and off the news grid last week, but the last I heard there is still a decision to be made that could affect the actual voting date. We need to be vigilant and working until the vote actually happens.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:36 PM
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7. The election is set for 7 October
But I do think the Dems are starting to get their acts together.
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snyttri Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:37 PM
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8. It was before Bill Simon dropped out.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:50 PM
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13. Wow-Arnold Will Get Bill Simon's Four points
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:56 PM
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15. perhaps conservatives won't vote if they don't have their guy running ...
just like some folks here on DU claim they won't vote if Lieberman is the Democratic candidate.
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Chango Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 07:23 PM
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16. McClintock will get most of the Simon vote.....
and it will strengthen his campaign against Arnold. It's shaping up to be a Arnold/McClintock race for 2nd.
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pf99 Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:39 PM
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9. From Ron Brownstien on Capital Gang
More Dems than Rep in CA.

Most Dems for Bustamante.

Republican split between Arnold, McClintock and Uberoth.

This spells doom for Arnold.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 07:39 PM
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17. Two reasons why Republicans dropping out might not make a difference
First, you have to keep in mind that dropping out doesn't remove your name from the 100+ candidate ballot. So, if someone sees a name they recognize, nothing's going to stop them from voting for that person.

Ok, with that in mind, you have to consider that (1) the early polls which have these people "taking" votes from Arnold are reflections of what? It's not like they campaigned to get those numbers. Obvioulsy, when that polling was taken, Arnold was the most high-profile candidate, and was taking all the air from those candidates already. So (2) I don't see why the polling AFTER they drop out should change Arnolds' numbers dramatically. People are going to stop seeing Simon commercials? They weren't seeing them before.

Dropping out only makes a difference if you were campaigning, and showing commercials, and getting endorsements, and taking up the other guys' air. I really don't think Arnold is going to get a boost because a bunch of Republicans who were on the ballot two weeks ago and not really campaigning, are still on the ballot and not really campaigning, but are saying they wouldn't serve if elected and don't plan on starting to campaign.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:40 PM
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10. poll
People who say it is S's race to lose have it wrong. It is Bustamante's race to lose. All he needs to do is win the No voters and it's in the bag. I figure at least 40% will vote no, and it could be as high as 48%. Davis will likely lose, but I don't see any No voters voting for anyone other than Bustamante.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:53 PM
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14. well, apparently there are a lot of people infatuated with swarzenagger
I think that so-called "charisma" has a big effect on voters. (He just disgusts me, just like bush.) Also, the republican cabal hasn't even gotten started on this yet. They will be as dirty and crooked in this election as the Disaster of 2000. republicans are behind this recall all the way and undoubtedly convinced swarzenagger at the last minute to run, after it had been reported for a week that he wasn't going to.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:43 PM
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11. Yessssss!!!
Could it be that sanity is coming back to America, with Bush going down the crapper and Californians not being lured in by some 3rd rate 'actor' politician wannabe? We'll have to wait and see. I'm not placing any bets just yet.
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:50 PM
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12. Still, I'd rather see Davis beat the recall
It just pisses me off that the GOP spent tons of money to overturn a legitimate election and force the cash-strapped state of California to spend millions of dollars on a new election, money that could have been spent on education.

This just reinforces my notion that Republicans are like spoiled brats that will do anything to get their way, even if it hurts their state or their country.

A**holes
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