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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:35 AM
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Poll question: Are You A Hawk, Owl, Or Dove?
Edited on Thu Aug-28-03 01:36 AM by khephra
I'd write definitions, but I was finding that it was hard to write unbiased ones.

So please feel free to give your definitions of the group you picked and those you didn't pick.
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jfkennedy Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:39 AM
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1. Dove
Only peace can bring peace. Wars will never bring peace. John Kennedy our greatest American president said if we don't end wars was will end us.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:39 AM
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2. whats an owl khep?
I consider myself a dove but there are some wars I would fight in even with my heart condition.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:45 AM
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9. Moongod below has a pretty good unbiased definiton
Of course, the whole situation of War to Peace is on a continuum, so not many people fit into each group in every case. I just saw the earlier thread about people supporting the war, and I became curious as to what the spread of views were here on the use of force.
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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:41 AM
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3. What's an Owl?
I mean is it like..

Hawk = yes to war
Owl = it depends
Dove = no to war

??
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:42 AM
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6. I based it on
hawk= war no matter what
owl= hell if I know
dove= generally try to oppose wars but will support just ones
I consider myself a dove but I would support WWII duh and would enlist if I could.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:41 AM
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4. I'm a crow!
My favorite bird! :)
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:42 AM
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24. Probably dampens the sex life ~ huh
;-)
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:42 AM
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5. re: definitions, how are these? (extreme positions for Hawks & Doves)
Hawk: Pro-war. Anywhere, anytime, let's get it on. Might makes right.

Owl: Let's see the facts, then I'll decide if the particular war that you're proposing is justified.

Dove: There is never a good reason for war, ever.



If you meant something else feel free to correct me, Khephra :-)
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:46 AM
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10. See what I mean though?
It's really hard to give definitons for these without really tipping your hand as to what you feel you are.

I guess this is just a "how do you see yourself?" poll, as many of us will disagree as to what fits in what camp.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 02:05 AM
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14. Yeah, I guess my "Let's see the facts" bias is pretty obvious... nt
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:58 AM
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13. I liked Wonk's definition. . .
so I opted to be an Owl.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:45 AM
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26. These are the definitions I used and I chose Owl.
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Ein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:43 AM
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7. Dove
if our troops are deployed for any reason other than defense or purely to help the population of a country, it is not in my name.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:44 AM
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8. Probably an owl since I'm up at three in the morning
reading this when I should be in bed.
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:50 AM
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11. I voted Dove, but I'd say I'm actually somewhere between Dove and owl.
For example, I agree that WWII was something worth getting into.
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Section_43 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 01:54 AM
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12. Dove....war is outdated. n/t
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 02:29 AM
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16. Ditto...
...I'm an owl when it comes to the times I post at during vacations.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 02:22 AM
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15. Of course I'm an Owl
I support Sheffield Wednesday!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 03:10 AM
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17. A Dove, unless cornered, then I morph into an Owl...
But it takes a lot to get me there. Negotiation should never be allowed to break down. After WWII, I'm hard-pressed to think of a fight that was worth starting or getting into, let alone not immoral on some grounds.

We need to think beyond war.
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birdman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:58 AM
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18. I'm a hawk - I went to St. Joseph's University
Owls went to Temple.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:01 AM
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19. i am a dove
but there are exceptions to the rule, for instance Humantarian purposes. that does not mean a free-for-all though, we must follow the rule of law and not lose our humanity in the process.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:10 AM
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20. I'm a wise owl who knows there is time for war, and time
Edited on Thu Aug-28-03 08:12 AM by mandyky
for diplomacy. Obviously chimpboy learned schoolyard bully diplomacy.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:22 AM
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21. Dove.
or somewhere between dove and hawk. I'll never attack. I'll mount a strong defense if attacked. Any defensive action ends the instant the aggressor backs down.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:32 AM
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22. dove
Theodore Roszak's quote come to my mind,
"People try nonviolence for a week, and when it 'doesn't work', they go back to violence, which hasn't worked for centuries."
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:33 AM
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23. Hey can I say Dowl? I voted owl...
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:44 AM
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25. I'm an owl because I don't care for the rats we have in power
Like to swoop down on them and rip them asunder.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:22 AM
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27. I vote owl..... Know when to go
and when to stay the hell out of it. If we had spent all of this damn money on alternative fuel technology we could just send the whole middle east a nice break up card and call it good.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 12:01 PM
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28. Owl...
I don't want the U.S. to run around the world fighting everyone by itself like a Hawk. However, I also don't want us to sit back and do nothing if a threat is materializing or the rest of the world is taking action. I also think when we do use force it should be proportional, targetted, and in league with other nations.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 12:04 PM
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29. Somewhere between a Tufted Titmouse and a Yellow-Bellied Sapsucker n/t
Edited on Thu Aug-28-03 12:05 PM by JaneQPublic
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 12:13 PM
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30. I'm a turkey (n/t)
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