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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:11 PM
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Is Fallujah Bush's Dresden?
We've been talking about how Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam, and that it is.

But now that Bush is using napalm on Fallujah, the question must be asked: Is this Bush's Dresden? In WWII, Churchill had Dresden firebombed for the hell of it. This appears to be what's going on in Fallujah.

Read Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse-Five.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:16 PM
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1. Unfortunately the kool aid drinkers
are creaming their jeans over this new outrage and crime against humanity. They really like the gruesomeness of it I guess.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:20 PM
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2. It's more like Bush's Warsaw...
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:22 PM
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3. I'd say it's more like Bush's Detroit riots
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:02 AM
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10. Have we ever told you how much you are loved by us?
Yes we have, sorry, the dollars are coming soon.

"Something is happening here".

We've been following each other around too long.
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RegexReader Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:33 PM
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4. not really
the issue with Dresden is that the Panzer division that was R&R'ed at Dresden had already left something like 3 days before and the Allied command knew it but went ahead with the raid since it was already scheduled. Dresden was known to have orphanages and china factories, nothing of military significance in it thus it had not previously been bombed. The insurgents were still in Falluja and there were significant weapons stores there. The napalm was at directed targets and the civilians had previously been given a chance to leave. Dresden was firebombed, not napalmed. Magnesium vs petroleum.

Given the current status, it will be shoveled under like everything else.


RegexReader
$USA =~ s/Republican/Democrat/ig;
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:38 PM
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6. RegexTranslator....
... for those who don't read UNIX regex:

$USA +~ s/Republican/Democrat/ig;

means (I think, I'm rusty here)

In the USA, substitute each instance of Republican with Democrat. Ignore case and substitute all instances (as opposed to only the first one)

Did I get it? :evilgrin:
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:45 PM
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7. Wrong.
The fact that the US did make it clear they were going to attack makes it completely unnecessary to go into Falluja, as most of the insurgents left by the time we started the annihilation. This is almost exactly as it happened in Dresden: The enemies leave, but we raid as scheduled. Dresden posed probably the same threat to the Allies as Falluja poses to America's occupation of Iraq. The only military significance of the city was its ability to hold weapons and people, and that's about it. Dresden held those same characteristics, as well. Also, do you know that it is difficult to survive in Iraq without a house? This is why a great number of civilians HAD to stay in the city, they had no other choice.
So now it is OK that we napalm Iraqis because it is "better" than firebombing? GET A GRIP. That is disgusting. Don't be a war crimes apologist.
By the way, we are also using white phosphorous.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 07:55 AM
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9. I don't often do this, but this time I will at risk. You are fired.
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 08:05 AM by anarchy1999
How dare you suggest that Fallujah needed to be leveled with all the US's numerous weapons? Have you been keeping up with what has been happening there since last April? Make it be your own subdivision you live in and then transport yourself. What would you do?

Many times I say welcome to new members. This is one time I am angry and I condemn you and your opinion. I will not welcome you.

The citizens of this town were "allowed" to leave, except no men between the ages of 14/15 and 50. Families had to decide to separate at the last moment. Moms from sons, Dad's and father's from their wives and daughters. What in God's name would you have done? I would never leave my husband. I would have stayed with him and died first.
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ilife Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:36 PM
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5. Nanking

Japanese aircraft bombed south Shanghai Station Aug.28,1937.
About 200 people in the waiting room were dead or wounded by the bombing. A crying baby was left alone after the bombing. - Life" Oct.4,1937

with ILLEGAL COMBATANTS and right down to the pretext of bringing PEACE, PROSPERITY and SECURITY to the region, GECAPS.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 07:36 AM
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8. So I think we're agreed
that Fallujah has made the Top Ten Named Atrocities of All Time list along with places like Nanking and Warsaw.

All we need to do now is find a few cans of prussic acid in the possession of the United States military and we're set.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 09:14 AM
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11. yes
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