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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:58 AM
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Hollywood Conservative misses the obvious (big surprise there, right?)
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 12:06 PM by JHB
Pat Sajak has been a "Wheel watcher" too long: his thinking is spinning.

A Hush Over Hollywood
by Pat Sajak
Posted Nov 30, 2004
...
So I’m trying to understand the nearly universal lack of outrage coming from Hollywood over the brutal murder of Dutch director, Theo van Gogh, who was shot on the morning of November 2, while bicycling through the streets of Amsterdam. The killer then stabbed his chest with one knife and slit his throat with another.

The presumed murderer, a Dutch-born dual Moroccan-Dutch citizen, attached a 5-page note to van Gogh's body with a knife. In it, he threatened jihad against the West in general, and specifically against five prominent Dutch political figures. Van Gogh’s crime? He created a short film highly critical of the treatment of women in Islamic societies. So, again I ask, where is the outrage from Hollywood’s creative community? I mean, talk about a violation of the right of free speech!

Perhaps they are afraid that their protests would put them in danger. That, at least, is a defensible position. If I were Michael Moore, I would much rather rail against George W. Bush, who is much less likely to have me killed, than van Gogh’s murderer and the threat to creative freedom he brings. Besides, a man of Moore’s size would provide a great deal of “bulletin board” space.

Maybe they think it would be intolerant of them to criticize the murder, because it would put them on the side of someone who criticized a segment of the Arab world. And, after all, we are often reminded that we need to be more tolerant of others, especially if they’re not Christians or Jews.

-------full screed at http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=5905 -------

Or, Pat, maybe it's just an example of All-American "not made here"-ism and "not us"-ism. No Americans were involved, more Americans probably know YOUR filmography better than the victim's, and as terrible as it was it didn't raise the "Terror Alert" color code, so why should "Hollywood" be anymore up in arms than anyone else in this country?

I'm reminded of a couple of incidents back in the 90s, when a radical Black Nationalist speaker would say something anti-semitic at a college speech, and suddenly conservatives were snapping their fingers for the Congressional Black Caucus to jump through a hoop to condemn him (and "tsk-tsk"-ing any who didn't do so fast enough to suit them), while ignoring racist comments just as bad among their own number.

What perplexes me (yet is oddly comforting) is why, given the diverse and fractured nature of the left, Pat actually has to invent a case of "liberal hypocrisy". If he has to stretch this far to come up with a contradiction, we're in better shape than I'd thought.

Or maybe all that spinning has left Pat a little too "nutty" to bother with facts. Next time you buy a vowel, Pat, pick up a clue while you're at it.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:04 PM
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1. ah, crap, does this mean that Pat will soon be running for office?
:puke:

It starts with opinion pieces that would never get published but for the name of the author. Next, a few speeches and well-timed "events" that your publicist makes sure get in the press. Next thing ya know, the pretty boy is running for office. Loverly.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:18 PM
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6. Those were my thoughts exactly
He'll walk in the hallowed conservative walk of fame tread by Sonny Bono and Fred Grandy
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:10 PM
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2. I boycott Wheel of Fortune and Jepordy, Sajak and Trebek are....
right wing nazis!

:grr:
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:11 PM
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3. Safest of all, attack America and the liberals instead.
That's mighty brave of you, Mr. Sajak.

And why does the right condone by their silence our own terrorists in militia groups?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:12 PM
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4. hey pat...micheal moore doesn't live in hollywood
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 12:13 PM by noiretblu
:eyes: hey pat: why not get off our ass, shut your mouth and *organize a protest* :wow: so, he's essentially blaming "hollywood liberals" for doing nothing, while he does nothing but shoot off his mouth..typical of these hypocrites.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:14 PM
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5. Pat seems to be victim of his own confused thinking
One madman's act of murder, particularly when that person has been arrested and will stand trial for that action, does not rise to the level of a violation of the right of free speech.

But I guess when you're casting about for any action anywhere to squeeze into your preconceived template of the way things oughta be, intellectual honesty must needs go out the window.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:20 PM
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7. The liberal media has been too obsessed with liberal stories
Like bashing innocent, framed right-wing hero Scott Peterson.

We all know he was framed by the left-leaning liberal secular humanist elite media because he was in favor of Bush's tax relief plan!


An remember how they used to attack right-wingers like JonBenet's parents and OJ Simpson? You know they only hated him for being a successful black not on welfare!!!

DAMN liberal media with their constant agitating for collectivist reform and more government regulation!
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:22 PM
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8. SHUT UP AND SPIN. n/t
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:22 PM
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9. Oh please,
Take your recycled talking points and place them roughly where the sun does not go. Where's *your* outrage, Pat? Why did I not hear your clarion voice ringing out above the fray in your outrage the moment the knife went into the man's chest? No, better to hear your voice murmuring, "Hypocrites, hypocrites..."
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Pig_Latin_Lover Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:24 PM
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10. Less likely?
So, Bush is less likely to get us all killed than some murderer in Amsterdam? Given Bush's failures surrounding 9/11 and the number of active-duty military that have been killed in action in Iraq, I would say his track record is much greater. Bush is a dumb guy who gets people killed.
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unionmom Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:27 PM
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11. This has me laughing my ass off.
This is hysterical. tHis is really the wheel of Fortune guy? How can ANYONE take it seriously? Why did he bother, seriouslyu is he planning to go for office somewhere?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:31 PM
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12. Thank you Pat. I'd like to move my bowels now.
Who'd thunk Vanna was the smart one?
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:33 PM
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13. Pat with your money you could read
with your money you could help ,but instead you are the vacant fake smile t.v. nothing in your little castle.
Everybody turn off your t.v.s it is only going to get worse before people figure it all out.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:51 PM
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14. So
So PAts thesis is if I don't go to the streets to protest every murder that ever happens anywhere in the universe then I am condoning murder? But Pat doesn't protest murder in Iraq thus Pats pro-murder. I understand now...

"If I were Michael Moore, I would much rather rail against George W. Bush, who is much less likely to have me killed, than van Gogh’s murderer "

If Pat has Moore's personality and humor his talk show would have actually been watched by some member of the human race.
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LiberalEconomist Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:14 PM
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15. I always wondered about actors who are political activists
How do you know whether they are acting or not? I watched Ron Silver do his thing on cable tv and it appears to me as if he were playing some character or another. Yes, Ron Silver is not a very talented actor since you can catch him acting. Or, how about the Oscars a few years back when Halle Berry won. Did you see all those actresses in the audience tear up? Was that real? Or, were those tears from years of pretending to have emotions? By and large, actors have no souls of their own. They send all of their time pretending to be you and me.


In short, FUCK HOLLYWOOD!!!!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:16 PM
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16. Here's one for you, Pat
How many kids have been MURDERED in Detroit?

How many teenagers are hooked up into the Porno industry in Hollywood?

Where's YOUR OUTRAGE THERE? Why aren't you saying something when a toddler kills his grandpa with a gun? Where's the skill then? I guess the toddler, not the gun, killed then.

So, selective outrage. Yah, a Dutch filmmaker in Amsterdam gets killed by a part-Dutch person. Exactly how is that really news in America? Well, if it doesn't involve Clinton or a liberal, then it's not news to the "liberal media".
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