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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:25 PM Original message |
Intelligent Design under intelligent attack... |
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MaryH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. That fight is going on in Kansas again. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. that is just Stupid logic.. |
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Must_B_Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
158. I agree - TIme + Change = complexity |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. It might be good to get a court ruling. |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Supreme court ruled that back in... |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I hope you're kidding |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. You realize they're "judges", right? |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. sorry |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. You don't have to be a supreme court justice to see that... |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. That's not what the case is about at all |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
126. fortunately, most of the justices in our system |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 03:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
171. Didn't read the ruling.... |
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seaofcrisis (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. no they dont |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's fine by me |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Indeed - the notion of 'Intelligent design' does have merit. |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. If there is "intelligent design" there has to be a "designer". |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Wrong - you assume that the 'designer' has to be God... |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. "Masters of everything"?? Have you any idea of the size of the universe? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. LOL! Go read it again... |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 08:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
142. "Evolve" culturally or biologically? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Yes. |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. "The universe that bore us" does not care if we live or die. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #144 |
165. So then we will perish... and there you have it. |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 09:40 AM Response to Reply #143 |
179. What about all the other intelligent species out there? |
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Quill Pen (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. It isn't even a theory... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Intelligent Design requires employing a logical fallacy. |
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Rush1184 (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
184. what logical fallacy does it employ. I too find problem with the logic... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
148. Thank you. I grow so tired of people who have either forgotten |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. What merits are these? |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Proven false? Proven true? |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Clearly. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. It cannot be proven false... or true. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
125. Uh, no. ID has not been "proven false." |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Yes it is completely 100% dim-witted... |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Just like the scientists |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. yup... |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Hey, I didn't use "it's true because scientists say so" |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. If you don't see the harm, then open your eyes... |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Here |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. No. Ideas. Are. Being. Repressed |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. LOL - you're close to giving up your entire argument.... |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. There is no harm in discussing it... |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
187. I don't mind it either... |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. Evolution is a proven science, application through historical |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
5. Darwin believed in intelligent design based on his study |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Horseshit. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. As a believe that's my take on it too |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I'm with that - |
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Royal Observer (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
193. That's exactly what we need |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Intelligent Design is bad science. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Intelligent Design Doesn't Require Any Mention Of God, Either |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Actually - it's not science at all... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Right. Wishful thinking is not science. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Yes - there is a difference... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. Check out auto-catalysis. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
64. But how is the design of the snowflake "not" evidence either? |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
127. Hmm, basically you're saying God creates each little snowflake. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:39 PM Response to Reply #127 |
145. You have also missed the point... |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #145 |
156. Oh, I get your point. It's just a lousy point. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #156 |
163. Wrong again... |
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notundecided (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 10:46 AM Response to Reply #127 |
181. Maybe |
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Quill Pen (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:32 PM Original message |
So, hypothetically... |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
51. How do you know we weren't crapped out by flying monkeys? |
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dpibel (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
108. And exactly who does this? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
137. no-one is teaching that evolution proves the non-existance of God |
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rawtribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. God botched the eye |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Great stuff! People always forget the "wall" of survival. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
106. This is an EXCELLENT example .... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. The fact that our plumbing and reproductive systems... |
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seaofcrisis (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
76. good point |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
157. teaching intelligent design |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
24. The brightest of the magical thinkers had to come up with |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
35. I cannot believe we have to fight this battle over and over again.... |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I'm not a scientist and am not as familiar with the language as you |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Jesus H. Christ... |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
159. non-scientific alternative |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
188. non-science doesn't belong in a science class |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. Imagine my chagrin.... |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
36. I always thought that a democratic value |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. It not about supression of an idea... |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Well, I think it really comes down to allowing people choice |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT THAT!?!?!? |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. How about alternatives to gravity? |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Once again |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Still stuck on the idea that it is being banned? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. You're essentially allowing people to put ID in the WRONG CONTEXT |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
73. Why not teach ideas in church or home and teach science in school? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Actually why not change the value of PI while we're at it... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Deleted message |
Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I could only imagine the repercussions if that had passed.... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. Sorry. I think the PI debate was a hoax. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Your wording was ambiguous... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
84. I believe it never happened. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #84 |
96. I think we're talking about different things.... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:13 PM Response to Reply #96 |
110. Seems like a different instance. Sorry |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. It should be taught in a logic class as an example of lack thereof. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #47 |
160. alternatives to the definite integral |
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Royal Observer (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
192. Strange that you brought that up |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. Wow |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Nothing personal. Science follows the rules of logic. ID does not. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #74 |
103. Better is the SImpson's: |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
97. I think that is part of the problem... |
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dpibel (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
122. So what's it take? |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 07:56 PM Response to Reply #122 |
140. I feel that I've worded my view poorly |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:10 AM Response to Reply #140 |
147. great..... |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:32 AM Response to Reply #147 |
149. So I guess |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:50 AM Response to Reply #149 |
150. lucky, certainly - brilliant, certainly not... |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #150 |
153. I sense some facist ideology in your remarks |
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dpibel (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 04:50 AM Response to Reply #149 |
151. Shouldn't you know? |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #151 |
155. Well, someone's ramping up the personal attacks |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #155 |
190. as it relates to constitutionality, it most certainly does |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
132. there IS an alternative to evolution |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Correct, ID should not be taught as science... |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
42. The proponents of ID are claiming it's based in science |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. ID is the antithesis of science. It's religion. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. "Grand unified Theory" is being chased by scientists too.... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. GUT is a dream. But the method to test it is same as the method |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. That is correct... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Again. The logic is fallacious. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. You mean the argument that; |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Sure you have to make assumptions. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Me, personally... |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. Well of course that begs the question... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #88 |
101. When I was young... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Hell I was taught... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. Of course God has a sense of humor. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. Hey, that reminds me... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. LOL. Can I trust you? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. You probably shouldn't... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Ouch! That smarts. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Your telling me? |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
72. Intelligent Design: the world's so confusing; therefore I have the answer |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. That's it! Dennis Prager designed the universe! |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
77. How to create a scientific theory, by me, abridged version.... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. If I may... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Ha, good one... |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. That's reaching pretty far... which, I assume, is your point... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. I thought the analogy is was they could compose Shakespear... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. You bring up a good point. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Let's ask the White House... n/t |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. Ever heard of pi? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Oh yes - even saw the movie... |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. old stuff..... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Thanks for the book suggestion... |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. In the immortal words of Bill Walton/John Gooden.... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. Hey, I did accomplish something... |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. LOL - eom |
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GreatCaesarsGhost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
86. fundamentalists don't believe in evolution, but |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
98. GOOD ONE! |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
95. Everyone on this thread, take a look at this: |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. I have heard of this before... |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. That the observer is responsible for the collapse of |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #95 |
115. This would be hell (pun intended) for ID advocates... |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #115 |
139. Hehe, this is funny. I'll take a stab at it, tho I'm not an ID advocate |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Well that sure cleared things up. LOL. |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. And I challenge anyone to prove me wrong! ANYONE! |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
109. Who created god? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Even better, which god? |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I'd accept an intelligent answer to EITHER question. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. God's parents. |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:31 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Touche, and a few follow ups. Who created god's parents? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Ah, I should have expected that. |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. TURTLES! Now THAT makes sense! |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
124. Intelligent design has no merit since there is no evidence for it. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
130. Congratulations ChairOne, on kicking off a great thread! |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Congrats ChairOne, very stimulating thread... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Solon, Do you have a picture ready for everything? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. I'm a quick researcher of anything, really. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. lol - thx guys! /eom |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
134. I live in the county where this stupidity is going on, though not in |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. Imagine how I feel... |
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really annoyed (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
152. Oh Geez |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #152 |
154. I think you're being sarcastic |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #154 |
161. ID is a philosophical theory. |
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dpibel (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #154 |
166. I think *you're* being sarcastic |
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JonTheGeek (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
162. Intelligent Design IS TOTAL CRAP. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. Ha Ha.... you have been fooled by the illusion of |
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JonTheGeek (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #164 |
167. Because Time is Linear. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. You amuse me.... |
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JonTheGeek (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 02:24 AM Response to Reply #168 |
170. I suppose I should be intimidated by your credentials. *rolls eyes* |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. Fun factoid... |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:31 AM Response to Reply #169 |
174. I <think> you're blindly groping towards the idea that... |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 08:45 AM Response to Reply #174 |
176. No - actually |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #164 |
191. Thank you, I have posted this before, but not as well. |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 04:22 AM Response to Original message |
172. Lots of good comments here |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 08:33 AM Response to Reply #172 |
175. Such a theory should not be taught AS science at all... |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 09:06 AM Response to Reply #175 |
177. Glad you brought up "logic" |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #177 |
178. At what grade level is physics taught nowadays? |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 09:49 AM Response to Reply #178 |
180. The basic concept is pretty basic |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. Thank you for an argument with |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-04 08:26 PM Response to Reply #182 |
183. Thanks |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #183 |
185. Boils down to the teacher's competence... |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. Competence isn't legislated |
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6000eliot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 05:05 AM Response to Original message |
173. It's not science |
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