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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:18 AM Original message |
Regardless of the merits of what Bush has done in the past four years, |
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Fiona (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. Why would you presume |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
2. Hmmmmm |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I posted this because,just like our fundamentalists, the Muslims are |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I happen to agree, but I don't think people are gonna gonna break |
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Fiona (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:38 AM Original message |
By what reasonable measure can you claim |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. I say that because for the vast majority of people in the West, |
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Fiona (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. then i would respectfully say you're living in a fool's paradise |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Driven by science and reason |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. I know that there are dark recesses in America where religion and racism |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 07:44 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Industry will not help. It is not Amercia's job to make the world better |
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ashmanonar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
68. THANK YOU! |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 09:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Spreading globalization |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 07:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. You must be living in a different country |
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qwertyMike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
62. You miss the point. |
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qwertyMike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. Define 'Modernization' |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. pfffft |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I still believe that such people are a small minority among us, despite |
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GoBlue (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Maybe true |
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klyon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
50. say what ? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Generalize and stereotype much there friend? |
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Debs (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
58. Really?? |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 08:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
84. "The Muslims are also under the spell of religion." |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 08:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
33. I'll second your hmmm |
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jdots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. wierd. n/t |
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Ruffhowse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. The same could be said for fundamentalist Christians in this country. Why |
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Bzzzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. My Sentiments... |
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amber dog democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
8. What merits ? |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. That was my thought. |
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driver8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 08:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
82. My first thought, also -- what merits? |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
15. "The almost total hold religion has on the imagination of Muslims" . . . |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
51. I am quite shocked to read the OP |
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sportndandy (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
16. rascism whoa boy |
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No Mandate Here. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
18. Danziger gets it |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
21. Then if we can only get the same thing |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
24. Merits? You're kidding right? |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 07:50 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Merits is used as a word that includes demerits also.To state that |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
25. ok |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 07:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I never said that Muslims are not as "good" or "inferior" to us. All I am |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
27. the problem, it was only a smal fraction of muslim extremist |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
29. Be more like us? |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 08:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. As even Kerry has admitted it was the war issue that swayede most voters. |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
31. Muslims are perfectly capable of creating working democracy, if only CIA |
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Debs (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
61. Absolutly correct |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
32. HUH??????? |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
34. Umm...Iraq was secular. What are you talking about? |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. I never even implied that Muslims are uncivilized. I stated that |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. Es tut mir Leid, Klatoo |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 05:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. I did not mean to say that there are no Muslims that do not have a |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
35. Bush has emphasized that all nations must fight neocolonialism |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
36. And all Indians (India) are "same shit". |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Thank you for keeping track of this lunacy Lynn.... /eom |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
37. The question is though |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
38. Klatoo - you prejudice blinds you to the fact that of our age of unreason |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
41. Clearly you haven't met many of the irrational religious people in the US |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
42. You may say I'm a dreamer |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
44. "Reason and logic must take the place of religious dogmas.": I agree. |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. At this stage of historic development, those who reject science, reason |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I agree with everything you're saying, but one thing to point out. |
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CoffeeAnnan (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I disagree. Kerry has admitted that it was the issue of war that did |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. I hope you're right, but from what I've seen, I don't think so. |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
73. I want to answer all the posts that have argued against my views here. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. IRAN was progressing quite nicely |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. I disagree. Iran's progress as you like to call it somehow eluded |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 07:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. You are misinformed. |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 08:03 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Wrong again. Please read my response to all the critical posts in this |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
47. "merits"? what merits? please inform |
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CoffeeAnnan (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. The Op has already explained that he used merits to include the demerits. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. There is no monolithic Muslim world. |
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dpibel (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
53. Dispassionate reason |
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Jesus H. Christ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
54. What the flying fuck is this? |
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qwertyMike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Echo that post Jesus H Christ |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 08:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
85. Dude has a thousand posts and is gonna let it all hang out, heh |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
57. This is nothing but bigotry at its worst. |
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PROGRESSIVE1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Bigotry is too nice of a word. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 07:38 AM Response to Reply #57 |
76. this poster has really gone to the edge |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
59. It's not the end of religion |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
65. ooo, a fundamentalist scientism crusade the back up the fundie Xtians' |
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ashmanonar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
67. hell |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
69. bombing islamic nations will lead them to trust us more? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
72. Remember the level of hate and anger after 911 |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
75. dude, are you like 8 years old? |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. It is fine for people like you and me to sit around and argue endlessly |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 08:15 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Let me also add one more thought. We in the west are the beneficiaries |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. your arrogance is |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 08:52 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. Your posts indicate |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Ahhhh... I see now |
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CoffeeAnnan (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. I am sorry I have annoyed you, Karenina. That was not my intent |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
83. War does not lead to moderation. It leads to fundamentalism. n/t |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
87. and Yes KlatooBNikto, there really is a Santa Claus! |
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