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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:51 AM
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The Novak mystery ... solved? (interesting Plame theory from a blog)
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Somehow I missed the NY Times's latest article on the Valerie Plame affair (hat tip: MyDD) and the mysterious role of douchebag of liberty Robert Novak, who for reasons unknown has remained unscathed as other reporters face jail time, even though it was Novak's column that originally revealed Plame's identity as a CIA operative (see our earlier post here for more background and links).

I mention this to flag an interesting theory as to why Novak has remained so curiously above the fray. The theory, floated here by a MyDD diarist called JollyBuddah, is that when Novak testified before the grand jury, he did in fact reveal who leaked Plame's name to him -- but he lied about it, and the special prosecutor knows it. That would explain why the prosecutor has brought so much pressure on the other reporters to name their source: if they do, then the prosecutor can identify and (perhaps) prosecute the real leaker, and he can also prosecute Novak for perjury. It would also explain why Novak has been so oddly non-supportive of the other two reporters -- who, facing jail time because of what Novak did, have publicly expressed their disappointment that Novak hasn't called for them to be let off the hook (Novak's sensitive comment: "I don't know why they're upset with me. They ought to worry about themselves. I worry about myself."). In fact, the "Novak lied" theory is the only one I've seen on the Novak business that makes any real sense.

http://bluemassgroup.typepad.com/blue_mass_group/2005/01/the_novak_myste.html

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But all I really want to know is: when's supper?


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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:57 AM
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1. This makes more sense than some of the other Plame stuff I've read here.
n/t
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:58 AM
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2. That does make sense
And his comment about taking care of himself seems to solidify that theory.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:09 AM
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3. Novak has seemed very confident...Almost as if he knows he's untouchable
That's always been curious to me. His reputation doesn't seem to have been tarnished, CNN has supported him...while Dan Rather and CBS were trashed for the AWOL report.

Novak's confidence says he's being supported by whomever leaked and the Powers that Be. So, I'm not sure if what you are saying is correct. I think it's more that Novak is protected and so is Miller and Cooper. By stalling the investigation, they all win. Miller and Cooper's lawyers will win and Novak will never reveal his source.

I've given up on Fitzgerald and that's why I say this. I know many DU'ers put great faith in him as fair and a "bull dog" when it comes to investigation. Many seemingly believable excuses have been put out as to why Fitz has prolonged this investigation. But, all I know is that we are going onto five years with Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling still free and Martha Stewart is in jail.

It kind of makes one lose faith. I think that's where I am, right now. :shrug: There is no justice in America. Just "plea bargans" and "stonewalling" while the Shadow Government takes care of you and the American public tires and forgets about it all.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:33 AM
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4. Peter Lance on Patrick Fitzgerald


Peter Lance, Author, "Cover Up": What the Government is Still Hiding


Talks about Patrick Fitzgerald U.S. Attorney working on the Joseph Wilson Plame case had been involved in the TWA case cover up
starting at 15:00 minutes into interview

Connects Oklahoma bombings

9/11 report a complete whitewash
http://www.cspan.org/Search/advanced.asp?AdvancedQueryText=peter+lance&StartDateMonth=9&StartDateYear=2004&EndDateMonth=9&EndDateYear=2004&Series=&ProgramIssue=&QueryType=&QueryTextOptions=&ResultCount=10&SortBy=bestmatch


Peter Lance, Author, "Cover Up"
Peter Lance, author of "Cover Up: What the Government is Still Hiding about the War on Terror," discusses information missed by the 9/11 Commission and the Bush administration in the investigations of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
9/27/2004: WASHINGTON, DC: 45 min.


http://www.peterlance.com /
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:59 AM
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7. interesting....eom
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:35 AM
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5. I think that the chimp himself, cheney, or rove was the leak
One of those three, and probably cheney. Novak is untouchable as long as they are in power.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:32 AM
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6. There are a dozen former government employees who are really
getting screwed by this cabal. If there is no justice for these people and if our Dem leaders roll over and play dead and if the Clintons can't find some backbone after all they have suffered by the cabal...all may be lost. Only common citizens can save this nation.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 12:02 PM
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8. Sounds very plausible. I think the leak will definitely go all the way up
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 12:03 PM by TexasChick
to KKKarl Rove, Scooter Libby and possibly Satan Cheney.


Edited to say "leak" instead of "link".
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