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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:23 PM
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"Americans who are prepared to kill anyone for George Bush."
from "What Became of Conservatives?" by Paul Craig Roberts

In the ranks of the new conservatives, however, I see and experience much hate. It comes to me in violently worded, ignorant and irrational emails from self-professed conservatives who literally worship George Bush. Even Christians have fallen into idolatry. There appears to be a large number of Americans who are prepared to kill anyone for George Bush.

The Iraqi War is serving as a great catharsis for multiple conservative frustrations: job loss, drugs, crime, homosexuals, pornography, female promiscuity, abortion, restrictions on prayer in public places, Darwinism and attacks on religion. Liberals are the cause. Liberals are against America. Anyone against the war is against America and is a liberal. "You are with us or against us."

This is the mindset of delusion, and delusion permits of no facts or analysis. Blind emotion rules. Americans are right and everyone else is wrong. End of the debate.

That, gentle reader, is the full extent of talk radio, Fox News, the Wall Street Journal Editorial page, National Review, the Weekly Standard, and, indeed, of the entire concentrated corporate media where noncontroversy in the interest of advertising revenue rules.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts81.html
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:27 PM
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1. That couldn't be more true.
n/t
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:36 PM
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2. The second paragraph in your post is excellent.
It could have come right out of a German newspaper in the late 30's.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:38 PM
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3. Oh, but it's "over the top" to compare this to Naziism
/sarcasm off

You're absolutely correct.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:40 PM
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4. Good read!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:43 PM
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5. Nice to see a former conservative who understands the truth
And will keep writing and talking about it.

I may have to pick up his book; I like his style.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:45 PM
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6. But what do 'real' conservatives do about it?
They are even whinier than we liberals; and they likely still vote for Dubya.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:47 PM
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7. Well I think they profit from it and snicker
Just like Bush does. They profit from the business/tax benefits and look the other way at the religious zealotry etc.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 05:11 PM
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8. Four more wonderfully truthful paragraphs from this article:
American liberals called the Brownshirts "conservative," because the Brownshirts were obviously not liberal. They were ignorant, violent, delusional, and they worshipped a man of no known distinction. Brownshirts’ delusions were protected by an emotional force field. Adulation of power and force prevented Brownshirts from recognizing implications for their country of their reckless doctrines.

Like Brownshirts, the new conservatives take personally any criticism of their leader and his policies. To be a critic is to be an enemy. I went overnight from being an object of conservative adulation to one of derision when I wrote that the US invasion of Iraq was a "strategic blunder."

It is amazing that only a short time ago the Bush administration and its supporters believed that all the US had to do was to appear in Iraq and we would be greeted with flowers. Has there ever been a greater example of delusion? Isn’t this on a par with the Children’s Crusade against the Saracens in the Middle Ages?

Delusion is still the defining characteristic of the Bush administration. We have smashed Fallujah, a city of 300,000, only to discover that the 10,000 US Marines are bogged down in the ruins of the city. If the Marines leave, the "defeated" insurgents will return. Meanwhile the insurgents have moved on to destabilize Mosul, a city five times as large. Thus, the call for more US troops.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 05:32 PM
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9. Thank you for those paragraphs
It's a keeper article!
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 06:09 PM
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10. "Unable To Admit Mistake, A Reckless Administration Will Escalate "
I should have never taken that red pill.

From the Article:

"When the draft is reinstated, conservatives will loudly proclaim their pride that their sons, fathers, husbands and brothers are going to die for "our freedom." Not a single one of them will be able to explain why destroying Iraqi cities and occupying the ruins are necessary for "our freedom." But this inability will not lessen the enthusiasm for the project. To protect their delusions from "reality-based" critics, they will demand that the critics be arrested for treason and silenced. Many encouraged by talk radio already speak this way."

"Because of the triumph of delusional "new conservatives" and the demise of the liberal media, this war is different from the Vietnam war. As more Americans are killed and maimed in the pointless carnage, more Americans have a powerful emotional stake that the war not be lost and not be in vain. Trapped in violence and unable to admit mistake, a reckless administration will escalate."




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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 06:40 PM
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11. Great article
:thumbsup:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:29 PM
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13. one more time :)
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 07:09 PM
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12. Reality based criticism
Great post. Thanks.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:37 PM
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14. thanks, that is a great article. eom
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:42 PM
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15. Not to make light of anything serious or to seem rude but why do I
get the feeling that this is the beginning of a Georgetown for my generation. (I remember hearing about it in History class.) Or could it lead to something worse?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:08 PM
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16. Thank you bluebear ! Paul Craig Roberts' columns and the
excellent "Suicide by Freetrade" by Pat Buchanan

www.amconmag.com/2004_04_12/buchanan.html

show that conservatives aren't all out of their minds ! In fact there was a Republicans for Kerry website during the campaign. The rightwingnuts, by ridding themselves of all dissenters (jeez, I remember the days when Lowell Weicher R-CT ) bring their party to ruin faster than anything the Dems can do with their "big tent".

Ben Franklin had a quote that goes something like 'thank your critics, they do your cause well by pointing out any weak spots in your arguments'.

((I also like his other quote "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy". ))

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:15 PM
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18. I know many Republicans here in New Hampshire....
No wonder our state is the only one that "turned blue" this time. NH republicans are of the old-school variety, fiscally responsible, strong on defense etc., not the type in the article I cited. That breed has been totally cast aside by the Bush dominionists. Small wonder that the Maine (R) senators, Chaffee (R.I.) are also moderates. That kind of Republican I can debate with, go to dinner with... this "neonut" type is another breed entirely.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:13 PM
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17. Excellent!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:41 AM
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19. Hi swamprat
Havent seen you in a bit, happy new year!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:20 AM
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20. Hi Bluebear
:hi:

I've been here, but posting at a different time.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:57 PM
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21. Good don't be a stranger!
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:37 PM
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22. Good read, thankyou for the artical
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 02:53 PM by superconnected
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