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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:27 PM
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Has any good ever come out of major disasters?
Can anyone name one good thing that came out of 9/11 or Columbine? Oklahoma City? WTC bombing in 1993?
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:30 PM
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1. Lots of good actually
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 10:32 PM by theboss
Chicago fire went a long way to creating zoning in major cities and eliminating wood as a chief building material in cities.

Johnstown Flood essentially saw the birth of the modern Red Cross.

Triangle Fire was a large boost to the modern labor movement.

Coconut Grove Fire led to the creation of modern fire codes.

I know way, way too much about disasters. It was a strange hobby of mine when I was a kid to read books on these things.

(By the way, I wouldn't put either Columbine or the 1993 bombing in the "major disaster" category. Apartment fires have caused more deaths than either of those two).
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:32 PM
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2. What about 9/11?
Do you think any good came out of them?
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:48 PM
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3. Too early to tell
At the moment, I can't think of anything "positive" aside from the country's initial reaction, which I thought was largely remarkable. Airlines are in worse shape since, Manhattan is in worse shape since, and our foreign policy sucks pretty much as a direct result of it.

Maybe if real intelligence reform takes place, that could be a good result. I don't have faith in the current administration to do it though.

I'm curious as to why you are asking this question?
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:50 PM
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4. Probably just thinking about how 9/11 has been bad.
n/t
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:08 PM
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5. There was lots of love and sorrow generated for the Americans
But in the end it was all turn to hate. It was clear abuse of that pure and good feeling. Harness and tap to generate support for unjust action. It was darken and was turn into evil.

There is alot of questions that need to be answer on 9/11. Until and unless the questions are answer America will always be taint by a cloud of darkness hanging over it. Why should America pay such a price? Why should the future generations of Americans be burden with this stigma? What will become of a nation that will approve of a system that continously kill any attempts to shine the light of truth?

So in answer to your question.
Do you think any good came out of them?
I say NO cause, history prove that it wasnt use to promote good but evil.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:18 PM
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7. When the madness is over
and King George is consigned to the asheap of history, we may yet develop a foreign policy that doesn't treat the rest of the world so arrogantly.

IF we survive King George, that is.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:11 PM
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6. depends on you're perspective
9/11 will be taught in future centuries as the end of the world war II
consensus, the fall of the american empire and the build up to world
war 3 and 4 which sealed the fall of that empire.

The kobe earthquake changed building codes and earthquake standards
in japan.... (every building built to eartquake tolerances fell down
in that quake... causing a re-think).

The atomic boming of nagasaki was such a heinous crime, that it helped
us not use them in war since then.

The fire bombing of tokyo and dresden simlarly have encouraged a level
of restraint in american civilian mass murders that this iraq conflict
has only killed 100,000 rather than the more expected millions the
american military would prefer to murder in the bush imperium.

Gosh, with columbine, you can no longer take a hunting rifle to school.

With the okalhoma bombing, you can no longer pick up huge amounts of
diesel fuel and fertilizer in a ryder truck.

With the world trade center bombing in 93, you could no longer walk
in the world trade center plaza, as they sealed it off from terrorists
(read: pedestrians).

Heck, now you'll be arrested for having nail clippers in an airport..
that is serious progress!

Stop the plane... or i'll clip my nails!! ;-)

You can no longer buy a quality laser pointer on the web, as good
things have come around and declared the common public unable to
own them without causing terrorism.

Gosh, i'm amazed you don't see all this goodness coming from the
war on terror. Think of all the sales that the military compnaies
have gotten for smart bombs and duct tape... what incredible godly
goodness has come from that!.... its soooo sublime the ways of
the deep spiritual god of the nutter-christain right. "look, we
did not mass murder a million people.... clealry GOD has spoken."
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:25 PM
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8. the Colorado Big Thompson Flood generated momentum to get

a LOT of wetland protection in the USA....especially since Colorado SUDDENLY saw the necessity for protecting wetlands (which they couldn't see before, since COOR's brewery in Golden is BUILT IN A WETLAND)...so even though there's a 'grandfather' clause for older buildings, it has become extremely difficult to build in wetlands anymore (that is changing though, under bush*....so we may end up learning that Big Thompson tragedy AGAIN).....

For Columbine, there was a lot of pressure on Jefferson County cops to improve their always-sub-standard-performance....not certain if any improvements resulted though....Jeffco cops have got to be rated as one of the most incompetent and vicious departments in OUR Nation...hope that's improved some, at least for your sake and those around you in that area....
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