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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:00 PM
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Conservatives Supporting Prisoner Abuse and Want Graner Pardoned
I've found myself going to this PABAAH site almost every single day to read their ridiculous boycotts of Family Guy and whatever nonsense they bring up but this just takes the cake.

"Pardon Graner

Now that the media has inundated the world with all the sordid images and details of the "Abu Ghraib Prison Abuse Scandal", and now that Spc. Charles Graner has been found guilty of these so-called "abuses", we should all feel better, right? After all, America has done all she can to prove to the Arab street just how sensitive and caring she is, right? Pardon my French, but this is a bunch of BS! I don't know what kind of goods we're being sold, but I ain't buying and neither should you. War is hell and bad things happen in war. Just ask Army Spc. Matt Maupin.

Matt Maupin, of Batavia, Ohio, is still missing in Iraq. The last time this American soldier was seen he was kneeling in front of a group terrorists on the same kind of sick and sadistic videotape we've seen broadcast on the Arab propaganda network Al-Jazeera. In uniform, supposedly under the protection of the Geneva Convention, in the hands of the very same monsters Spc. Charles Graner and his crew at Abu Ghraib prison have been condemned for being mean and insensitive to. So where is the international outcry over the whereabouts of Spc. Matt Maupin? Where is the condemnation by the United Nations of these non-uniformed terrorists who buried Army Sgt. Elmer Krause and four civilian contractors in a shallow grave after attacking their convoy?

What this author finds so outrageous and disturbing is that so many in the world, Americans included, appear to be more concerned with the rights of non-uniformed terrorists and public relations than actually defeating this evil enemy and bringing THEM to justice. While American casualties are more in line with the War with Mexico, the very fact that we appear to be fighting a "politically correct" war grants some validity to leftist claims that Iraq is another Vietnam. The fact that Army Spc. Graner is going to jail for the mistreatment and abuse of some terrorists, including a non-uniformed Syrian who by his own admission was in Iraq to kill Americans, confirms this. Vietnam should have taught us that we cannot win a "PC" war. Stringing up a few of these guys caught in the act to the nearest light pole is what should be done.

The Geneva Convention was designed to ensure civil treatment of POWs and civilians during a time of war. In other words, while war is a very bad thing, nations do go to war for various reasons. The civilized world felt it necessary to lay out some ground rules for all to follow. However, the Geneva Convention specifically prohibits the taking of hostages and furthermore, does not apply to those that fail to "conduct their operations within the laws and customs of war". In other words, these hostage-taking headcutters, including the non-uniformed Syrian, are not protected by the Geneva Convention. Sadly, this simple fact does not come into play as it is much more fashionable to portray the United States as the bad guy in this current conflict.

While our nation has allowed itself to be distracted by the tsunami disaster in Asia, we will be faced with a similar disaster in Iraq if we allow that country to fall into the hands of the terrorists and Saddam Hussein. Abandoning the people of Iraq, as the naive anti-American leftists here in America would have us do, would be tantamount to unleashing a tsunami on those in Iraq desirous of freedom. We cannot allow political correctness to dictate how we fight the War on Terror. We certainly didn't when we defeated Germany and Japan in World War II. It is up to patriots across this great country to maintain a vigilant state to ensure that this mistreatment of our own soldiers does not happen again. I invite all of you to contact President Bush, your elected officials, and the Army Court of Appeals, urging them to do the right thing and pardon Spc. Charles Graner. Maybe he was a bit overzealous in his treatment of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib, but at least they still have their heads.






www.congress.org to find your elected officials

To contact the Army Court of Appeals:

ACCAInfo@jagc-smtp.army.mil"

- http://www.pabaah.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=807
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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:02 PM
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1. Anyone Know If Other Conservative Sites Are Doing This Too?
Usually when it's something like this it's been posted on several sites across the web. Does anyone know if they are sending out these e-mails all over the conservative community?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:03 PM
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2. If it was THEIR teenaged sons being raped... would they still
want a pardon for the perpetrator?

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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:04 PM
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3. WWJT.......Who would Jesus Torture
What hypocritical fucknuts.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:14 PM
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4. Back in Vietnam, they wanted Calley pardoned for My Lai
So, it's really no surprise.

If the victims don't have white skin, the connies don't even consider them human beings.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:16 PM
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5. I'll trade Graner for Rumsfeld...
Hell, not only would I pardon the shithead, I'd give him a medal if he could provide the testimony that would take Rumsfeld, et al, down.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:18 PM
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6. How Ollie became a hero
Just like this folks, just like this. Is it time we counter with the fact that the same people who sold Ollie down the river are selling Graner down the river???

Just might work.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:03 PM
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9. I'm tellin' you Graner will have his own conservative talk show
after Bush pardon's him in January '09, if not before.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:28 PM
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7. written by a person who probably couldn't find iraq on a map
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:30 PM
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8. Sure lets pardon Graner
and then let him practice his newly learned skills on these people....

And yes the same type also wanted to pardon Calley after Mai Lai, so it should not be surprising. Oh and given Calley did not serve his full sentece, I will put a dime on the proverbial dollar that Graener will not. Hell, he will move to better things such as a radio show...

IT is down to an art form to these people absolutely NO personal responsibility
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