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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:19 AM Original message |
How Can Any Christian Support the Iraq War? |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. How can any HUMAN support the Iraq war? |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Humans are a pretty nasty breed. |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
3. You are taking that passage out of context |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Um....Is that the right passage? |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Sorry Luke 22:36-38 |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Luke 22:36:38 doesn't apply |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Also check Romans 13:4 |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. This is one of my many problems with the Bible |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. It depends on how you view scripture |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. That's sort of my point |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I don't think it's been taken out of context |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I have read the Old Testament and... |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Who are your scholars? |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. They make a difference, but should they? |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Your sources are contradictary |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. You asked for sources |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 08:23 AM Response to Reply #54 |
75. I do disagree with you, but respectfully |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
66. More support: |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. "A leader of a country has a responsibility to defend its people. " |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Oh yeah, that little detail |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. That's the fuzzy part |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. "just war" is an oxymoron. |
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trezic (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. Morally confused |
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GOPFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. From my study of Jesus' teachings... |
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Hollowkatt (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. War?? |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Would you call Ghandi a terrorist? |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. But then later that night when the soldiers came to arrest Jesus, |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Luke 22:49-51 |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. What about when Jesus entered the temple to drive out the |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. John 2:13-16 |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. You don't make a whip for nothing |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Whip's make noise. |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I'm not saying anything for Jesus |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Could Jesus be a Do as I Say, not as I do type? |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. the quoted verses mention beasts of burden |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
59. I think that the actual biblical text refers to driving the animals |
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murray hill farm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
11. I still want to see one of those "god" billboards that says... |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. geez |
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murray hill farm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
57. Says who, bub? |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Hold on! |
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murray hill farm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Ha! Yep..slight over reaction..hahahahahaha! |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
14. They're Paulists, not Christians, and |
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Hollowkatt (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. Right! |
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ThorsHammer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
15. You need to differentiate between DU Christians and theocons |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. That's Sort of What I'm Asking |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. That's the big question |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. That is the big question. |
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ThorsHammer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Same here |
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ThorsHammer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Addendum - I do think some wars are justified |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I don't know even about WW2 |
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ThorsHammer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. You are correct |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. That's my theory for the Pauline Epistle's inclusion in the NT |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I'd agree with that |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I actually mistrust anything attributed to Paul of Tarsus. |
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onecent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
16. Saw a bumper sticker the other day and i said ... |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
21. The fact is that a majority of Christians support the war. |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Semantics I Stab At Thee! |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
70. Dictionaries routinely update the definitions of words |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
46. And most of those so called Christians think Muslims are the enemy. |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. Yep, I would say that you have your feet in reality. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. Um, except that Iraq did not strike us in the first place... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
29. They shouldn't |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Wasn't it Thomas Aquinas? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. If a vegetarian psychotic in 1940s Germany is shoveling -- |
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ThorsHammer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Ravenseye, this post sums it up better than mine (nt) |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
48. Hypocrites that "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition" |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. Exactly! |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
51. Jesus said a lot of things |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. That is a gross misuse of that quote. |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Yet People Try |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Indeed. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. Yeah. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
58. True story: A Church in my area had a sign that read.... |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
72. Many who support the WAR are PRO-LIFERS....go figure. |
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bdot (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
76. Because war is "OK". |
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