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Dylan Garcia Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:53 PM
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MONDAY NIGHT UPDATE ON CINDY SHEEHAN
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 10:01 PM by Dylan Garcia
MONDAY NIGHT UPDATE ON CINDY SHEEHAN

By Buddy Spell
Upbeat Defiance.com
LOUISIANA ACTIVIST NETWORK
www.newdemocracyrising.com

August 8, 2005

The biggest recent development today is that Cindy’s lawyers, Annie and Buddy Spell of Franklinton, Louisiana, have associated Jim Herrington of the Texas Civil Rights Project to come in as local counsel. Jim successfully defended the Crawford Five and we are honored to work with him.

The legal team is now in place and will be on site in about 48 hours.

Rumors of an impending Thursday arrest remain just rumors at this time.

Spoke with Cindy at about 9:15 PM (CST) this evening. There are about a dozen people out at Camp Casey tonight.

The Ben & Jerry’s Ice Cream people are providing assistance.

Cindy may leave Crawford for the day on Wednesday to fly up to Chicago behind the president to see if he’ll talk to her there. If not, she’ll follow him back to Crawford Wednesday night.

We are trying to get authority to move Camp Casey closer to the ranch. Jim Herrington is leading that effort as I write.

More later.

Peace out.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:55 PM
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1. Thank you ...
Peace to all
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:57 PM
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2. I'm looking at Google Earth
and wondering where the camp specifically is. Can you tell me in enough detail so I can locate it?
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Dylan Garcia Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:59 PM
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6. Don't know for sure
3 miles from the ranch is my info
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:05 PM
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13. I can find the bush ranch
turn on keyhole community bbs, maybe someone can upload the camp location to the network
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:05 PM
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15. there are directions on here somewhere, sorry I don't have a link
there's also more google earth shots of it.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:26 PM
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26. Do you mean Google Maps? It is my understanding that these images
are not "live" from a satellite but archival; updated only ever so often. What is Google Earth? Live photos?
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:42 PM
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34. Google Googleearth.
It's a dpownloadable program which interfaces with the same Digital Globe images used on Googlemaps, but is much more interactive. It is not live, but has to be seen to be believed.

I'm trying to get a geographic perspective on the events, i.e. where is the triangle, the ditch, etc. and where is public and private land.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:26 AM
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50. Whoa!!!! We're downloading it now!!!!!!
:bounce:
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:10 PM
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51. So, you like? nt
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 11:15 PM
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53. Yes- The US cities have tons of detail. Was disappointed to see so little
detail when I tried to go to Nepal. The Grand Canyon was cool.
Thanks for the tip!
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:57 PM
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3. Thank you, thank you,
I've been trying all day to find out how many people were there supporting her. I sure wish a whole lot more people were there. Where is everyone? Shouldn't there be hundreds by now? Texas is a big state surely there are some progressive anti-war people around.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:05 PM
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16. They are on their way... some aren't leaving until tomorrow morning.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:45 PM
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36. It takes just a little time to make an action happen. Especially in
Crawford in August.

We are all working on it.

Thanks, rainy.

www.crawfordpeacehouse.org
www.dallaspeacecenter.org
www.veteransforpeace.org

Gold Star Families, MFSO, IVAW, Traprock Peace Center, NION, and oh so many others.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:57 PM
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4. thank you so much, truly
Lord bless Ben & Jerry's and all the wonderful folks helping Cindy out.

Lord bless Camp Casey too. :)
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:47 PM
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38. Damn. Ben & Jerry's - Hell, I might even make the drive for some
Chocolate Fudge Brownie Frozen Yogurt. I love that stuff. Ben and Jerry's rock in my book. I'm on jury duty so really can't go, but sent a donation to the Crawford Peace House instead.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:57 PM
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5. Thanks for the update
Good to hear that she has retained a good legal team.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:00 PM
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7. My daughter and I are on the way, hoping to arrive Wed.
We'll be checking in tomorrow from our halfway location, please keep us posted.

We want to help in any way we can. MKJ
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Dylan Garcia Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:02 PM
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10. We'll be there late Wed nite
Ask for Annie & Buddy.

We'll hang out and wait for the sun...and the son.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:01 PM
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8. Great News, Especially Seeing Lawyers Aide, & Ben & Jerry!
Cindy has Spine! Her courage is helping me get through something personal right now. I can't thank her enough! American has a lot to be proud of because of Cindy Sheehan, her supporters and, well... everyone out here! And I mean everyone!

Godspeed!
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:53 PM
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40. It is not "Ben & Jerry". It is Ben Cohen, of Ben & Jerry fame, founder of
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 10:53 PM by anarchy1999
TrueMajority.

See this speech. It was amazing and awe ispiring.

Ben Cohen's Speech at the Washington Peace Rally
October 26, 2002

The President's men have compared their war in Iraq to a new product, but this is a product that nobody wants. So, they've timed it, from a marketing point of view, and they've supported it with a multi-million dollar P.R. blitz, but their product is a deadly distraction, bristling with nasty side effects and violating national law.

Speaking as businessperson, if I put this product out on the market, my shareholders would have my head. This is a war based on lies. The connection between Saddam and al-Qaida is a lie. The idea that Saddam is capable of attacking the U.S. is a lie. And a war of so-called surgical strikes is a lie.

Many thousands of people, fathers and mothers, sons and daughters, will be killed in this war, and yet there is no imminent threat to the security of America that justifies sending our brave men and women in uniform off to die. And the idea that the people of Iraq, who have already been terrorized by the loss of 500,000 of their children due to U.S.-led sanctions, the idea that these mothers and fathers want to be liberated by being bombed by the United States, is absurd.

The Bush administration is engaged in the most extreme form of power politics that I've ever seen. What their actions are saying is that we are the biggest, baddest bully on the block and, therefore, we can make and break the law as we see fit. We are told that we are to attack Iraq because Saddam Hussein has violated U.N. resolution. But just to put it into perspective, let's look at the U.S. record.

The U.S. has repeatedly violated, and continues to violate, the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. The U.S. pulled out of the ABM treaty. The U.S. has refused to ratify the comprehensive test ban treaty. The U.S. has scuttled the biological weapons treaty because we wouldn't agree to inspections. And we forced out the head of the chemical weapons convention, who was trying to bring Iraq into the fold. The last time UN weapons inspectors were in Iraq, the U.S. violated regulations by using them as spies. And now we have the Bush doctrine of preemptive war which states that WE can attack any country that we THINK might attack us, although I do not believe it gives that right to other countries.

But enough about war and lost lives and the rule of law. I mean, let's talk about money. After all, I'm a businessman and money's my game.

I've got a chart here that gives you an idea of how our government has been spending our money. Now this is a big crowd, but this is a big chart:

40 billion -- children's health care
30 billion -- children's education
15 billion -- higher education
8 billion -- job training
30 billion -- affordable housing
8 billion -- environmental protection
355 billion -- the Pentagon budget. That does not include the 200 billion dollars that war with Iraq and the ensuing occupation and nation-building is expected to cost.

Now these are tough economic times for the U.S. America is on the brink of recession. Median household income is down. Poverty and unemployment are up. The huge surpluses of the last years have been frittered away on tax breaks. City, state and school budgets across the country are in shock. Retirement and college savings have been decimated.

And now the administration wants to add another 200 billion dollars to that last line on the chart. 200 billion -- that's a lot of money. What could we buy with that if we didn't have this war?

Well, for 55 billion dollars we could provide all of our public schools with state of the art computer systems for all of our students. For 11 billion dollars a year, we could reduce class size, kindergarten through 3rd grade, to 15 kids per class. For 6 billion dollars a year, we could provide health insurance for all those kids who don't have any today. For 2 billion dollars a year we could provide Head Start for the hundreds of thousands of eligible kids who can't get into the program.

For another 2 billion dollars a year, we could double funding for clean and renewable energy. And you know, there are 30,000 children a day, around the world, who are dying from hunger. For 13 billion dollars a year, we could feed all of 'em!

There are 6,000 people a day dying from AIDS in Africa. For 10 billion dollars a year, we can curb the disease. And for 1 billion dollars a year, we could provide complete public financing of all federal elections, allowing us to really, totally and absolutely get money out of politics -- for one billion dollars a year.

All of those things I just reeled off add up to 100 billion dollars. This war is going to cost 200 billion. We have another 100 billion leftover!

The continued belligerence of our leaders saps our souls, saps our spirit, and saps our strength as a nation.

Let us instead rededicate ourselves to helping our nation to match its actions with the spirit and soul of our people in goodness and justice and compassion and love.

(See Ben Cohen's True Majority website: truemajority.com)
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:56 PM
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42. Was this on C-SPAN 2 a few months back -- On a Sat or Sunday?
Feel I seen this.... he's absolutely great. Admire him so...

He made Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Cohen_(ice_cream)
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:00 AM
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43. The speech I referenced was way back. I'm sure he's been on many more
Edited on Tue Aug-09-05 12:02 AM by anarchy1999
times. Just from a marketing/sales approach this speech and the graphics he used in the presentation were unbelievable. He drove the message home in a hard and soft way. Kinda like ice cream.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:32 PM
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52. Respect & Luv him, immensely!
Finding his site just after the Nov. 2004 election brought hope on one saddened night. Will never forget it. Buy the Ice Cream all the time, now!
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 01:08 AM
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45. You should post that as its own thread! It's excellent!
Brave words, noble and true... and those numbers just blow ya away...
Wow.
Gonna go dash a copy off to a friend or two; thanx for sharing!
d
:applause:
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:01 PM
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9. That sounds like all good news.
Thanks.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:11 AM
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48. excellant news thanx for the link
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:04 PM
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11. Thanks for the update.
n/t
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:05 PM
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12. Thank you Dylan
Got home to comb DU and the internets for news of Cindy. Thank you and best wishes. I wish I were closer and would join you but 2000+ miles won't work. With you in spirit.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:05 PM
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14. keeping this kicked..and hoping I can get down there too.. nt
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:07 PM
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17. Thanks for the update
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LiberalUprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:07 PM
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18. Thanks for the update
and link.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:12 PM
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19. Kick! n/t
:kick:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:15 PM
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20. Hey Dylan!
I remember you from another site -

I'm glad to hear that you and your wife are going to help Cindy.
And even better that you are providing legal support.

Keep us posted, and take care!

(Jill/Az)
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Dylan Garcia Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 01:22 AM
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46. Jill/Az
Isn't this great?

Good to "see"you.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:18 PM
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21. Way'at Buddy!
:hi: Y'all are awesome!
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Dylan Garcia Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:32 PM
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29. Where ya at?
((((Swamp Rat)))
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:38 PM
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31. alright
;)

Making lots of pics.



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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:21 PM
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22. Thanks for the update Dylan.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:21 PM
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23. Go cindy Go Thanks for the update Dylan (nt)
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:23 PM
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24. kick for that (and a thanks to ben & jerrys)
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:25 PM
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25. I remember a demonstration in DC against the Vietnam mess.
There were a lot of Vietnam veterans demonstrating in front of the Justice Dept. They got arrested. You can imagine the press. Nixon personally got them out of jail. Arresting victums is not good press.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:28 PM
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28. kick nt
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:49 PM
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39. Wow
I didn't know that about Nixon. Do you think Bush would do that for Cindy? Knowing how arrogant he is no.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:28 PM
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27. Have a safe trip...
Im so glad you hooked up with the Texas Civil Rights project! We will see you guys Friday.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:40 PM
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33. Take some chigger repellent along--if there is
such a thing. They are miserable things--borrowing under the skin and itching like mad. That is one reason police made them walk in the grass IMO.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:34 PM
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30. Thanks for the update!
Nice of Ben & Jerry's!
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:38 PM
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32. Is * going
to Chicago on wednesday? I thought it was Aurora Ill. In any case keep us posted cause I can definitely meet up with Cindys group at either location. If she needs people to show up.
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Dylan Garcia Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:08 PM
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41. I'm just a Southern boy
It's all Chicago to me.

Check website: Military Families for Peace.

They are going to meet Bush wherever he goes and demand that he speak to Cindy.

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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:28 AM
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44. Thank you
will do. And Thanks for the update.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:43 PM
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35. Thanks to everyone who helps and supports Camp Casey.
The civilized world is watching and carries high hopes and love for Cindy. Thanks a lot!

Peace
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:46 PM
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37. Good News! Thanks for the UPDATE!
We appreciate all everyone is doing to help!

Cindy is an "inspiration" to all in the world who
believe in Peace and Justice!
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 01:25 AM
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47. Thank you for this update. I shall run out and stock my freezer now
with Ben & Jerry's.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:13 AM
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49. Ben & Jerry's!!!! That's Awesome!
I'm so happy that there will be competent legal counsel on scene! Very important!
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