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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:37 AM
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Has Rush been found to have any drugs in his possession?
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 09:38 AM by Bandit
Without any drugs there is a pretty weak case. Any good lawyer should be able to shred this charge to pieces because there is no evidence only accusations. It doesn't matter what they have on tape. Any savvy person knows how easy it is to produce a fake tape that sounds just like the real thing. Without solid evidence there is nothing. I hate to burst everyone's balloon because I would love to see him go down more than anyone else here but the fact of the matter is there is yet to be any real evidence that I have heard about.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:40 AM
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1. Personally I don't want to see him go anywhere
But since I run my website off of pulling apart Conservative Arguments, he's sort of a gold mine. But whatever happens to him, his fans aren't going anywhere.

I do agree with your assessment that this story is more of an embarressment than likely to bring real problems.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:41 AM
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2. A rational post
I've spent the last few days jumping back and forth between the two big political sites (here and you-know-where) and there are very few people looking at actual facts.

Everyone over there assumes it's all a big lie and we will come to regret our glee. Everyone here assumes he's a 100-pill-a-day junkie.

Politics is just like sports. We always see the play we want to see it (did I point out that the Redskins' fourth quarter drive was ended when the refs couldn't see what was clearly a catch)?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:25 PM
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15. Why am I not surprised at your POV?
:shrug:
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:49 AM
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3. There is nothing to indicate that he has been caught red-handed
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 09:50 AM by GumboYaYa
(or in his case little blue-handed).

I doubt that we will see Rush hauled away in handcuffs anytime soon, particularly now that he has hired Roy Black as his attorney.

I can hear Black now telling Rush that he better not say a damn thing about this on his program and he has to ditch the drugs for the time being. Both pieces of advise will be very difficult for Rush to follow.

We all know how big his ego and mouth both are. He will be dying to blame the whole drug situation on the "liberal media." It will kill him to take any personal responsibility for his addiction.

As for ditching the drugs, you can't just stop being addicted to Oxycotin on a whim. If Rush goes cold turkey and sweats out the next few weeks while he tries to keep doing his radio show, we will see some wild stuff happen. I can tell you from personal experience that detox is a brutal experience.

If he keeps doing the drugs, he knows that there is a strong risk that he and his home will be searched.

If it is true that Rush is addicted to pain pills, the best thing for him to do is to admit he has a problem on air today and take a few months off to go through rehab.

One has to wonder whether Rush can ever truly rehab. Do you see him submitting to a higher power or apologizing to the people he has wronged? For his sake, I hope he does. If he truly rehabs, a different man will emerge. If he does not, he will eventually destroy himself with addiction.



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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:43 AM
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8. Lucky for Rush
he has the other scandal.

Maybe he can shut up about the drugs by talking the whole time about the ESPN deal.

See Rush, isn't it best that your scandals come together as a set?
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:49 AM
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4. De-tox clinics are being hounded as we speak...
It is alleged he has been to de-tox at least twice. I believe in NY. It's a matter of time before someone digs that out. He has too many enemies and he has just handed them a long dagger and turned his back.

I'm torn on this as I have some experience dealing with addicts. He needs help. The most dangerous time is the first 48 hours after being cut off.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:10 AM
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5. Ignorance on my part
I don't know much about the drugs in question or their effects. I heard they are pain killers?

Would it be physically possible for him to be taking that many pills and still do 3 hours a day on the radio? Between his radio gig and what seems to be a lot of public apperances at golf outings and other public appearances can a person keep up that kind of pace with that much stuff in their system?

It would seem someone would spot some of the effects of the drugs, wouldn't you?

Don P.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:27 PM
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17. The effects had been spotted...slurred speech...
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:30 AM
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6. You know, Rush has a favorite quote:
"The accusation is the key." This came about when Clarence Thomas was pilloried (justifiably - read "Blinded by the Right").

Which would also explain why all of the "scandals" endured by the Clinton administration fizzled down into nothing, save for one blue dress, which had absolutely nothing to do with Whitewater, but was brought in on the fishing expedition.

Now, when a centrist thinks about Bill / Hillary Clinton, the first thing that comes to his/her mind is "scandal" - not "great economy" nor "no soldiers' lives lost in ousting Milosovic".
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:34 AM
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7. You are right and Rush will feel this dearly , but Jail... I doubt it.
Unless they find some real evidence he will probably not even go to court but he will indeed feel the impact of these accusations. That is very good IMHO
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:48 AM
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9. When will "Cops" break down his door at 2 a.m. in the morning
Bursting in with great commotion. There's the suspect found naked in bed with his girl friend (or boy friend). He quickly tries to pull on a shirt as the harsh video camera lights flood his startled face.

Oh, right, sorry. Wrong color.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 11:47 AM
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10. They'll take a blood test now that they have probable cause.
Blood tests, at least in Florida, are not considered self-incriminating.

Rush is cooked.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:27 PM
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16. Who is Rush's employer? Shouldn't he be tested for drugs?
I'd love to hear why he isn't being subjected to the very policies he and his supporters champion.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 12:29 PM
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11. how drug lords like rush operate
He used an intermediary to exchange the money and drugs. However, he is on tape ordering the exchange, as well as testimony from his underling who had to physically exchange the money for the drugs.

Typical high level drug lord activity.

We convict other drug lords who order these transactions. At least we do if they are brown and speak Spanish. I am not clear on why Rush should be treated any differently from anyone else who lives in a fine house who routinely orders drug exchanges to be carried out by an underling.

The evidence seems to be clear cut. We just have a problem with a lack of will on the part of law enforcement to enforce the law when it comes to rich white people. Or maybe I should say a lack of courage.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:35 PM
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12. What evidence?
I'm sure no Rush fan, but I haven't seen any evidence yet, clear cut or otherwise. Just a couple of blurbs in the Enquirer and some of the networks repeating it.

If anyone has a link to any real evidence that has been made public they should post it.

From what I have seen so far, most of what they seem to be saying is based on the testimony of a woman they have in custody.

The guy may indeed be dirty, but I'll wait till I see some real proof. This could wind up being nothing more than an employee offering to throw a high profile personality under the bus to save his/her rear end or to get a better deal.

I'm just trying to figure motive. The guy has a 3/4 of a Billion $ contract so my guess it it isn't money.

Before I jump on the pile, I want to see and hear more than an Enquirer report and the local cops confirming that "he is part of an ongoing investigation".

I was part of an "ongoing investigation" once too, as a witness on one of my old bosses embezzeling.

Don P.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:16 PM
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13. There's a tape.
And there's good reason to believe that it will be admissable in court.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:20 PM
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14. He could be on the run...
Philly...New York...Headin' back to Florida soon Rush?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:31 PM
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18. I hope he runs out of Oxycontin...
then he will start climbing the wall.
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