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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 11:56 PM
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Who will Dems run if we have to recall Arnold
?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 11:57 PM
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1. Aaron Sorkin
:shrug:
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:06 AM
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2. Feinstein
my guess.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:14 AM
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3. I'm praying that Boxer will run
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:15 AM
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4. HAVE TO???????
we're GOING TO.
Day one if it happens.
On the principle that the loser got more votes than the winner.
Among other things.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RecallArnold/
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:17 AM
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5. nobody
waste of money. focus on future elections and let the republicans be embarrassed by arnold in the meantime.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:20 AM
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6. I know who we should run, Gray Davis
The vote will come up 6-9 months after next week. Give California a chance to realize what a dumbass Arnold was, and then put Davis back in office.
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EX-CONservative Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:26 AM
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16. I don't think he can
I don't think Davis can run again. He has already been elected twice.

Remember, California term-limits are LIFETIME term limits...
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mushroomhead Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:27 AM
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7. Stupid idea
If you want the Democrats in CA to look even worse go ahead with it.

Face facts, Davis and Bustamonte ran terrible campaigns. They deserve to lose.

What is being done now is the worst. You don't get to the high ground through the sewer.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:36 AM
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8. NO but fighting a fire with a backfire
is toasty and satisfying. Guess what. Partisan war has been declared over all our portestations. we're taking it to them.
NO PRISONERS.SCORCHED EARTH.

Report back about how pissed off we are because they have no idea what they have unleashed upon this state.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:03 AM
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10. I am not into the groper/nazi stuff
Edited on Sat Oct-04-03 01:05 AM by Classical_Liberal
but fair is fair, and if he gets in through recall he can be recalled.
If the first recall isn't a sewer, than the second one isn't.
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Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:05 AM
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12. The high ground is irrelevant
When fighting against the establishment of a one party state led by fascists, the high moral ground is of secondary importance.

Victory at any cost.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:12 AM
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13. Flamer hour
.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 05:03 AM
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32. Good idea. Elect Arnolf
Yea we look bad I mean why not elect a serial
groper who has it out for native americans and
mexicans.

Sure dems look bad next to US English board member Arnold.

Arnolf is a discusting racist face it no ground can
be given to him for maners.

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Cloud Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:57 AM
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9. No recall
This first one was embarrasing enough. If a group of democrats start a recall for revenge it would make us look bad.

Let California suffer with their decision to elect Arnold. Which is what it looks like they will do.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:04 AM
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11. Jackie Speir
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:15 AM
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14. Warren Beatty. Our groper against their groper
nt
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:16 AM
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15. That should be good.
.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:29 AM
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17. don't like beatty, how about robert redford ?
i don't like warren beatty, i think he is an asshole and boring and makes no sense much of the time. robert redford is much better if we are going to have a "star" of our own.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:22 AM
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18. Feinstein
I'd like to get her out of the Senate -- she's too damn conservative. But I think at the state level she would do alright. Are there any progressive celebrities we could get to run for office. Ed Asner would be good, Martin Sheen, Rob Reiner, Tom Cruise??
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:27 AM
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19. Let's get Clinton to set up house here in kully-fornia
He may have made some unwanted passes in his time, but I don't think he ever actually grabbed women's body parts in front of his buddies for sport and laughs like Pig Arnold. He has more sex appeal and charisma in his little finger than the terminator.

Remember that great sixties wisdom -- Today's pig is tomorrow's bacon!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:32 AM
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20. Ray Taliaferro or Bernie Ward
Heh-heh.
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abbyhoffman Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:54 AM
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24. Ray T
Has been the San Francisco Art Commissioner for years and he used to be president of the San Francisco NAACP he would be a great GOV! or mayor of SF wish he'd run
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abbyhoffman Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:37 AM
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21. You're not going to be able to recall
Edited on Sat Oct-04-03 02:40 AM by abbyhoffman
who ever wins on Tuesday! you will not be able to gather that many signatures. It has to do with the % of people who voted in the last election & last Nov was the lowest turn out in Calf history which is why after about 60 recall attempts in 100 years this one worked
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:40 AM
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22. Just watch - it's already planned and ready to go.
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abbyhoffman Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:44 AM
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23. ya right
you're going to need about 10 million signatures or more thats not going to happen... Plus 45% of the people who signed the recall were Democrats
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:56 AM
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25. I think there are atleast 10 million angry dems in California`
.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:11 AM
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26. Really? How are 83.3 million people going to cast votes in this election?
The recall mechanism is based on 12% (a little less than an eighth) of the votes from the previous election.

Somehow that's going to be tough in a state with 15,577,687 registered voters, if you ask me. (Okay, that stats are out of date, as of May, 2001...)

Let's just say that EVERYONE votes. That would mean we'll have to get 2 million signatures. I've got my clipboard ready.

There are a lot of angry people in this state right now, and it could get on the ballot for the primary election, at which time many Democrats are voting.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 04:32 AM
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30. More anti-Democrat posts from pro-Arnold people
A lot of Arnold supporters on DU lately.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 04:40 AM
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31. Some people want to see some evidence first
Edited on Sat Oct-04-03 04:41 AM by IndianaGreen
What happened to the old liberal belief in the presumption of innocence, or is that out of the window because it is politically expedient?

For example, here is the debunking of the Hitler quote story, brought to you by the man who started it:

SUPPORT ON NAZI CHARGE

Schwarzenegger did get something of a boost Friday in his denial of ever having praised Hitler when George Butler, who produced “Pumping Iron,” said he may have misquoted the actor.

Butler shopped a book proposal on Schwarzenegger’s life six years ago, parts of which were reported in the media overnight. In the proposal, he said that in conversations he left out of the movie, Schwarzenegger named Hitler as one of his heroes.

<snip>

However, Butler contacted The New York Times, which ran a story about the book proposal, on Friday morning, saying he had found another transcript of the interview, with different wording.

That one has Schwarzenegger saying: “I admire him (Hitler) for being such a good public speaker and for his way of getting to the people and so on. But I didn’t admire him for what he did with it. It’s very hard to say who I admire, who are my heroes.”

Butler said that his transcribers had difficulty rendering Schwarzenegger’s remarks because of his accent and that the only way to resolve the discrepancy was to listen to the tapes, which are in Schwarzenegger’s possession.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/945950.asp?0cv=CB10
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:20 AM
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27. Do the Democrats want a recall election in the middle of 2004?
First of all, while Davis is toast, there is a very good chance that Bustamante may be elected governor on Tuesday.

As to those that want to have another recall election, I will remind you that we have a Presidential election next year. The voters will be exhausted from the current recall, and they may react negatively to a new recall effort. This is not something we want, we don't need California to become competitive for the GOP.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:45 AM
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29. There wouldn't be a recall if Bustamante is elected
Only if Arnold is elected.

BTW, there is just as much chance that Davis will survive the recall as there is Bustamante will win the replacement vote.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 05:27 AM
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33. None of the polls bear that out
The one thing we can predict with reasonable certainty is that Davis will be recalled.

The recriminations will come if Bustamante is not elected governor. Many of us will ask why did the Democratic establishment undercut Bustamante's campaign at every turn. From the moment he announced, Bustamante was attacked as a traitor by the Davis people. We will ask why didn't Davis step down days ago for the good of the party and endorse Bustamante. We will also ask whether there was anti-Latino bias in the calculations that went into putting all of the eggs in Davis's basket.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:37 AM
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28. why wait for the recall...vote Busta!!! n/t
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