Is it Ted Kennedy's fault that we're in this mess?

Sephirstein

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:03 PM
Original message

Is it Ted Kennedy's fault that we're in this mess?

Didn't he betray his party and cause Democrats to flock towards Reagan after Carter won the nomination again in 1980?

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Loyal

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:04 PM
Response to Original message

1. Nope

n/t

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

HFishbine

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:05 PM
Response to Original message

2. No

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

wyldwolf

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:06 PM
Response to Original message

3. It wasn't that simple...

Edited on Sat Oct-04-03 12:07 PM by wyldwolf

... Reagan would have won anyway but Kennedy's behavior presented an image that the Dems were weak and not unified. It certainly strengthened Reagan's support who was campaigning as a stronger leader.

I remember it well. It got a lot of press and network TV play.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

jenk

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #3

4. no Anderson & Ted Kennedy

and that election could've been a lot closer, electorally at least.

Anderson taking votes away from Carter and Kennedy with his "no more jimmy carter" stuff really hurt.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Sephirstein

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #4

5. Anderson?

Wasn't he a Rockefeller Repuke before running as an indie?

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

wyldwolf

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #5

7. You know what? I think you're right...

...I seem to remember that about him, although I didn't follow his campaign.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

jenk

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #7

8. he took far more votes from Carter

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

wyldwolf

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #4

6. True, but we're talking AFTER Carter won the nod and Kennedy acted like...

...a child about it.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

papau

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #6

9. I don't have to kiss Kennedy ass to get his support - I can win without it

Seems Carter was a bit at fault also.

And in the General, Anderson ran as an independent.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Junkdrawer

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:26 PM
Response to Original message

10. LOL - No, I blame Teddy Roosevelt for creating the Bull Moose Party..

It set the stage for all these third party runs we see today. ;)

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Cocoa

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 12:29 PM
Response to Original message

11. No

not exactly sure what you mean, but I'm pretty confident it's wrong.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Rowdyboy

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sat Oct-04-03 03:53 PM
Response to Original message

12. Actually, I've never completely forgiven Kennedy

for his disgraceful behavior in 1980. He is as much at fault as Nader was in 2000. And I've held that grudge for 23 years so you can imagine how long I'll detest Nader.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

DU AdBot (1000+ posts)

Mon May 13th 2024, 10:49 PM
Response to Original message

Advertisements [?]

Top

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.