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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:25 AM
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Does it seem odd to anyone that Bush doesn't have any friends?
This struck me over the weekend. We have never heard of an "old buddy" visiting with W or him mentioning anything about spending time with old friends. I seems that all of his "friends" are people who used to work for his Dad. He hangs out a lot with his Dad which is nice in a way but you would think he has someone his own age to hang out with (such as the officeholder of the Presidency can).

Didn't he form any friendships in prep school or at Yale/Harvard?

I know they tried and succeeded (thanks to the press) in distancing him as far as possible from that "elite" background but you would think we would see someone he has known for a while show up when he is on one of his extreme vacations.

Perhaps they don't let anyone know who his friends are as dots could be connected to others and to what is going on.

It just seems odd to me.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:28 AM
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1. Immature bullies don't have any friends....
only sycophants.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:22 PM
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35. you hit the nail on the head
bullies don't have the social skills to make friends that's why their so mean. They think if they act important and terriorize everyone that people won't notice they don't have friends.
Of course it is always someone elses fault it can't be anything they do or that there might be something wrong with them.
Both ends of the spectrum (bully and victim) have social skills problems that need to be dealt with.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:28 AM
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2. His "friends"
are the Ken Lays and Bin Ladens of the world...

He can't be seen with them in public.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:31 AM
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4. exactly.. that or they're already working for him (e.g Rove) and
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 11:33 AM by ixion
besides that, he's a sleazy loser. You have to be a decent person to have friends. If you spend your life screwing people over and being dishonest and sleazy, you're just not going to have any real friends.

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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:30 AM
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3. I remember one time
I believe he hosted a party for some old Yale friends. Some of whom refused to show up because, well, they hate him now.

:)
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:31 PM
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26. I don't think that qualifies as friends--it was just an invitation
to all in his alumni class who were going to be in New Haven for a reunion anyway. And it's true that a lot of people gave it a pass.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:32 AM
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5. Even Nixon had Beebe Rebozo
Though I'm not sure how a president can really have friends.
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:32 AM
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6. Name some of Clinton's "old buddies"
It used to be said that Jobnny Carson was "odd" because off-stage, he seemed to be uninterested in being with other people, and was content to be alone with his wife.

My theory (about J. Carson) is that he has such a clear understanding of human nature that he'd just as soon not be bothered with having to deal with so much of the phoniness and hypocrisy that surrounds much of our relationships with other people.
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:34 AM
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9. Joe Lockhart
One of Clinton's WH spokesmen in his first administration was Joe Lockhart, a kindergarten buddy of Clinton's.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:53 AM
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13. Mary Steamburgen and he befriended Greg Norman
The couple that created "Friends"I think and they were "image consultants"

The Greg Norman story was one I remember because I heard Norman come out on the air (golf tournament) and said something nasty about Clinton, something about taxes. The next thing I hear Clinton fell and hurt his knee ( or ankle) at 3AM walking into Norman's sunken living room. ;) :beer: ;)

Clinton must have won him over.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:30 PM
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16. Vernon Jordan is a staunch Clinton buddy
He testified during the impeachment, and is a frequent golfing buddy.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:14 PM
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22. Vince Foster
Was an old friend of Clinton's.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:34 AM
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7. I guess you could check the Lincoln Bedroom logs...
I think Rush has spent the night as well
as Laura's galpals...

You don't really hear about Sally Quinn throwing
them parties though..
I'll have to check my latest "W" magazine..

hehehe
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:34 AM
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8. he has Julio Franco
as the annoying Faux sports guys mentioned at least twice during the Cubs-Braves series. :puke:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:50 AM
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12. He invited them to his wedding
I really wasn't thinking about that when I posted this. Fox sports mentioned in every game he played in this post season.
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yolatengo Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:35 AM
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10. last night...
They made it a point in the Cubs/Braves game to say that the Braves'
Julio Franco is a 'close personal friend of George W. Bush'. They said it
several times as the Braves had their *sses handed to them (oops,
that just slipped out!). :evilgrin:

I guess they became friends while he was playing for Texas from '89-'93.
He's getting old (42) for a ball player...mebbee come Jan 2005 (or sooner!),
he can hang out with his pal Dubya back at his Crawford Ranch, talking old
times and baseball on the porch.

Bigby
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:47 AM
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11. I hate to admit this but.....
I am friends with a woman who has know both he and Laura since grade school. I was at a party with her last weekend and I asked her about it. She is a strong Democrat. She told me that they do not discuss his politics because they are so opposite but she loves him dearly. I left the conversation after that because I just could not take it and didn't really want to hear anymore. She is not a rich person nor a big business person but they remain in frequent contact, probably mostly through Laura. I like this woman, she is a good person but this just left me cold.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:18 PM
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14. Yuck!!!!!
Who in their right mind would want to be friends with an evil corrupt person who doesn't play with a full deck??? :puke:
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:20 PM
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24. My Mom & her hubby are big GOP contributors...
And they've hobnobbed a bit with the Bushes when he was Texas gov. (They live in Texas) My mom even has a photo of herself with the Bushes in her office. Makes me want to puke every time I see it. I never ask her about it, though, because I know I would end up yelling at her in a fight.

Thank God my Dad's a good democrat at least.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:28 PM
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15. That's how I felt about Leona Helmsley
You remember, the hotel owner's wife who was called The Queen Of Mean and said, "Only little people pay taxes"? The thing that fascinated me about her trial was that she didn't seem to have any supporters. If there was a group of friends and family appearing at the courtroom daily to lend moral support, the press didn't mention it! Even Robert "The Preppie Murderer" Chambers had a cheering section. It really does say something about you when you're that friendless.


rocknation
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:34 PM
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17. He's a mean spirited
ASSHOLE. And people like that don't tend to have many true friends.
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:41 PM
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18. he has friends...
14 of them... to whom he recites his sexual exploits.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:41 PM
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19. Bush Has No Freinds Because He Is A Malignant Narcissist
Trust me here folks because I am currently grinding with my teeth on edge to rid my life of one. These people are morally and ethically deprived they only enlist folks into their lives because they are seeking supply.

Supply you might ask what the fuck is that? I'll tell you what it is it is gaining the support of someone to feed the narcissist's lying behaviour.

These creeps need adoration as much as a normal human needs air. So since these fucks are shallow and manipulative shits they lie about themselves seeking to gain a bit of an edge it works until the person they've deceived wakes up.

Most are very accomplished liars. They have done it their entire lives. It is very hard to detect at first but once the liar is exposed it is very difficult to put the lid back on.

When their once friend wakes up all bets are off and the fangs come out. And the fangs bite deep. Now the liar plays a new game. It's called making the victim go crazy. The lies continue at a fast and furious pace throwing the victim off balance and screaming for the shit to stop. It is a form of "gaslighting." As in now making the victim think he/she is nuts.

When the real victim of this shit says please stop you are hurting me the narcissist(the fuckers they are) act like they are the victim.

It is a very twisted and sick mental disorder and Bush has it in spades.

I think I am an intelligent and informed person yet one of these fucks has wormed his way into my life.

My narcissist has no friends. They can't have friends because all they do is TAKE. And to top it off they are vile and bitter. Who can make friends with that?

Bush and my creep are tied at the hip.

Gawd they are true fuckwittage. Trust me it is hard to deal with them.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:16 PM
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34. You give a fair description of narcissists - they lie about everything
Used to have one in my life, and he'd lie about what he had for lunch - because the less people knew about him, the more he could get by with. He used to brag that there were 20 people who thought he was their best friend, but that none of them really knew him at all. A narcissist has no conscience or sense of guilt, so don't waste time asking him to stop hurting you. Just get out of Dodge!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:46 PM
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20. Barbara use to hang a porkchop around georgies neck just to get the dog
to play with him .....i know ...i know...it's an old joke, but, it does apply here. :7
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:58 PM
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21. there was a list posted here, some time ago, about who had slept over
at the wh and cd. there were some people listed as "friends". i meant to bookmark it for future googling but forgot. anyone remember that? link?
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:17 PM
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23. He's far too much of a "Christian" for 'friends'.
Human "friends" are full of human failings, and being as Bush is a TOTALLY SINCERE, GOD-FEARING, BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIAN whose "faith is an integral part" of his life, he can't sully his morality and purity with the bad influences of friends who might consume alcohol or perform the sexual act. Political operatives, sycophants and henchmen make much better company then friends, and don't destroy your beautiful "faith" by telling you things you don't want to hear.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:38 PM
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28. maybe you don't realize it but.......
i don't have a clue if you are a regular on the relifgion/anti threads so i'm not going to assume this was intentional but your post could easily be construed as a real slap at the christian community here at DU.

bush doesn't represent christians as a whole as far as i can see and your implication that christians in general have no friends is really pretty insulting or i'm assuming so since i'm agnostic so can't say for sure.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:20 PM
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25. I think that Dan Evans is his best friend.
Dan was one of the men at Bush's OUT-OF-STATE HOTEL 40th birthday party where he got drunk and then decided to quit drinking.

Has anyone here ever heard of a married man with children celebrating a birthday at an out-of-state hotel with a bunch of drunken buddies? Gee, I wonder if there was any female "companionship?"
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:38 PM
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27. Don Evans gave an award last week to Fannie Mae
http://www.conference-board.org/utilities/pressDetail.cfm?press_ID=2235

I saw this on the news last week, but there was no mention of who at Fannie Mae collected the award.

Perhaps it was Victor Ashe - another one of chimpster's Yalie boyfriends

http://www.fanniemae.com/governance/biographies/ashe.jhtml?p=Corporate+Governance&s=Board+of+Directors

And Pickles was out of town all last week;-)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:42 PM
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29. hmmm
I have the opposite impression. I think the Bushes have a lot of friends from old networks. She has friends of her own, but he also has pals. I've often wondered how they manage the rolodex.

Keep in mind that pathological narcissists (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) are known to be charming people. They have a huge capacity to attract people and to manipulate them.
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:56 PM
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31. Mayor of Knoxville is reputed to be special friend.
Mayor of Knoxville Tenn , Victor Ashe. While I was googling on the Dean of Oklahoma University ,Franklin scandal, Larry King(a minister) I came accross some information that gW and Victor are 'special' friends. This guy has some serious allegations made against him. Note:gW has appointed his special friend to the Board of Fannie May.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:46 PM
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30. Victor Ashe
Mayor of Knoxville, TN, also a Yale grad and a Skull and Boner. They reportedly spend time together every month.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:56 PM
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32. What? I thought Laura the "lump" was his friend.
nt
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:02 PM
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33. appointment to 'fannie' may is an inside joke. nt
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