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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:45 AM
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Game, Set, Match
The facists have one. I for one am now seriously thinking about leaving the country. The NAZIS have one...I cannot stop the steamroller. I am gay and know where I stand with them. So I am thinking Germany.

Ironic I have to go to Germany to get away from the facists.

Oh

And fuck that Austrian NAZI!
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even Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:11 AM
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1. On your way.
We would like to hear from you. Over there in Germany.
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jafap Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:12 AM
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2. it does seem ominous
some no-brainers have gone the wrong way in Alabama and now California. WTF is wrong with this country? I do not know that much about California, but it would seem that the vehicle tax was a bad idea, and also regressive. It is hard to raise taxes on the wealthy with a Republican legislature.
I am 50% Kraut so I think living in Deutschland would be way cool. Plus, they have better unemployment insurance, more time off from work, and higher wages. I guess jobs are hard to find, and so are Cokes. The part of Schwabia that I visited is loaded with bike paths, and I found the same thing in the Siegwald.
I like Austrians though, and I like Arnold too - as an actor. He did not campaign as a Nazi, but as a compassionate populist, a reformer. Perhaps he shows that people like the idea of reform even if the person selling it has no substance. Especially when he is unchallenged in the mainstream media. God forbid anyone challenge this icon to provide any specifics.
To me it once again shows that jocks rule. I should have spent more time taking steroids in school and less time reading. I also expect that, like Ventura, he will be exposed as the arrogant moron that he is. Then again, the previous moronic actor was a two term governor.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:17 AM
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6. I lived in Bremen
as a kid...I love Germany and I really think it is time to consider it. I get more afraid with every passing day. Creeping facism and no one to stop it.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:14 AM
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3. I so agree with you.
These fascist pigs are taking over the country. There is no hope left for LGBT rights in the U.S.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:17 AM
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4. Sorry, you aren't going anywhere; we need you too much.
Tonight we cry, we rage, we rant -- tomorrow we continue the work of taking back our country.

And Bev would find you and drag you back anyway. To tomorrow, GBNC :toast:
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:19 AM
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7. Thanks Melinda...
but I am looking at the reality...I know where I stand with the facists. I am down at the bottom with muslims.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:33 AM
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8. Hey!
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 01:35 AM by Melinda
I understand fear and anxiety. It's okay for you to be despondent tonight, now, tomorrow... as long as you need. There are emotional phases we each will be working thru after tonight's fiasco and kick in the teeth... but we will keep working through.

GBNC - There will be millions of people in the streets should you or anyone else be persecuted by the govt. for your sexual orientation... No, they won't stop, deny, or destroy you - they can't. We won't let them.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:36 AM
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10. Melinda...it's too late sweetie...
and thanks for the pep talk. But I am already persecuted...I cannot marry the one I love. We have been denied. It can only get worse. I feel it coming and it won't be too long.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:47 AM
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11. You need state sanctioning to join your hearts?
Have you ever considered a trip to Quebec? <sighing here>

GBNC, you are one of my favorite DUers and I feel so sad knowing that you are hurting as you are....and I wish I could take your pain away.

All I know is this: The sun WILL come up tomorrow and you'll see it rise if you care enough about yourself, care enough about those who love you, and care enough about those you love....please gbnc, don't give up caring.

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:55 AM
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12. Gosh Melinda
You honor me...truly!

:Bows:

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:17 AM
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5. We're not through yet. We'll see what happens to Social Security
If that gets destroyed, a disaster will be on the horizon. Welfare reform was bad enough. Social Security and Vouchers will dictate whether I stay here--well-run public schools and adequate social services are basic civil necessities for a modern nation.
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Rainbows Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:36 AM
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9. Hang in there ...
The tide is turning, alot yet to happen before Nov. 04
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:07 AM
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13. We shall see
n/t
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einsteins stein Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:20 AM
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14. DONT LEAVE!
The revolution starts TODAY!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=493025&mesg_id=493025

Join the fight against the right. Its a war of truth and information!

Check it out...
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YourDad Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:34 AM
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15. I'm not just thinking about leaving the country
I am leaving the country. I'm not going to Canada either. Canada's too close to the evil influence and who knows they might even try to take it over one day. I'm moving to Europe and I'm not ever going to come back.
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