Dems in NeoCon America in 2003 = the Jews in Nazi Germany in 1938??

It's so obvious I feel silly posting this thread. Surely this has been discussed in DU, but I honestly don't remember it.

- Both the Dems and the Jews are/were made out to be evil and the principal source of problems within their respective empires.

- Lies were/are the primary modus operandi of both the Nazis and the Republicans. The most effective Republican lie being that the oppression of the lower class is the fault of the Dems and their pro-government, high-tax policies; that the Republicans are against government and taxes, and so the lower class should support them. In Germany the Jews were blamed by the Nazis of being the source of the German people's economic oppression.

- Both the Nazis and the Republicans connected/connect with their constituencies on a very basic, primal level.

- Both the Nazis and the Republicans attempt to instill fear (of the Jews and of the Dems, respectively), and use this as a principal weapon.

What else? I am not an expert on Nazi Germany. Who can recommend a good book or on-line essay?

I found this book on Amazon: "Nazi Germany and the Jews: The Years of Persecution, 1933-1939 (Vol 1)"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060190426/103-6803993-8674268?v=glance#product-details

Until I see minority and women-owned businesses closed down, property confiscated and heads wacked in, I'm going to be optimistic that the U.S. is not becoming like Nazi Germany.

a Muslim or Arab-American. For them, it has already started.

This kind of melodrama isn't useful. Does anyone really believe that Repugs are going to round liberals up and start gassing them? Jesus.

The difference is, the first Repug who comes calling on my door to make me wear a "Dem" on my shirt gets a bullet...

Sorry. So what do you really think?

You can actually compare being a Jew during the Holocaust to being a member of one political party against another?!?

Talk about making light of all the people who suffered and died at the hands of the Nazis. This is one of the most disgusting comparisons I've ever seen.

This is just another form of Holocaust denial:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/jg20030905.shtml

It's VERY popular here on DU and with the hard left in general.
It is a black mark.

But as I see it, it's not a matter of wearing something on your jacket or being rounded up - it's being silenced that concerns me.

I feel strongly that I need to financially support more of the liberal and progressive outlets so they don't wither away. It's also really important to let KGO know that I listen to Bernie Ward and others on commercial radio. And to support DU along with other web sites that contribute to our knowledge and afford us a place to gather. Even the shyest among us can sit at a table at a county fair to illustrate that there are numbers of people who support Dem candidates.

What I fear most is isolation.

there is no comparison validity IMHO to The Holocaust and the Democratic Party today none.

I will never forget.

To compare neocons to Nazis is kind of dumb. There is no neocon political party, neocons don't have a uniform, neocons are intellectuals, most people don't know what a neocon is, and most people have never encountered a neocon or will ever encounter a neocon.

Neocons are very influential, but they don't control anything but think tanks and maybe some university departments. They don't, for example, control my local police department, and as far as I know they don't control any armed forces.

Well perhaps a few: 4 branches of the U.S. military, the FBI, the DEA, the border patrol, et al. -- all through their puppet enthroned at 1600 PA Ave.

The Neocons have been using the fundamentalists to get
power. But W is a religious nutcase. Thank god for us
that he has the charisma of a sack of nickels.

But, the basic analogy of economic crisis, and an angry,
diseducated, downwardly mobile mass of workers is correct.
It is the fundamentalist who, literally, "have religion".
Just like the Nazis, they see the country in an "end times"
crisis, and they demand an absolutist redemption of their
country.

We are fortunate in today's America that the businessmen
are smarter than the theocrats' figurehead, W. But, as
I have posted earlier, the current situation could not
have happened without a truce between the theocrats and
the corporatchiks. The truce was a division of spoils:

1) the corporations and wealthy get to loot the American
public and the government treasury. They get to trash
the government and ruin the country.

2) after the looters have gotten away, they bankroll the
fundamentalists into power.

The end result is to turn the US into the world's biggest
banana repulbic/Taliban police state. Meanwhile, Haliburton,
Carlyle, DynErgy, Wackenhut, and all the other mercenary,
private military companies become the global Pinkertons
for a global corporate Robber Baron class.

What, me cynical?

arendt

Can't believe how awful and wrong the original comparison of this thread was! Truly embarrassing!

But yeah, that's a pretty good analogy Arendt...

Unfortunately, the best comparison for the majority of Democratic leadership is that of the Nazis' many collaborators.

How else am I to understand the complacency and acceptance and even heavy support among Democrats for the 2000 Coup, the 9/11 coverup, the Anthrax attack, the USA PATRIOT Act, the Iraq attack and Homeland Security votes, not to mention the frequent chearleading for Bush by Lieberman, Gephardt et al.?

And I am sorry about how poorly I framed my comparison in my first post.

I had been attempting to compare some of the methods the Nazi's used against the Jews so as to achieve their successful rise in power to the methods the NeoCons are using against the Dems to achieve their successful rise in power. I was attempting to compare the use of the Jews as the scapegoat for the economic troubles in Germany in the 1930's to the use of the Dems and big government as the scapegoat for the economic troubles in the U.S. in the 2000's.

I most definitely was NOT trying to compare anything happing in the U.S. today to the holocaust.

The US is in an economic depression, joblessness and a struggling economy. There is fear and distrust of foreign countries and citizens of certain ethnic backgrounds. The US is not gaining diplomatic alliances and is taking on the role of pariah. Citizens are willing to sacrifice some of their constitutional rights (as well as state rights) for their supposed security. US youth are distracted by celebrity worship and show disinterest in the political process and higher education. A general feeling of hopelessness is beginning to grip the country. These conditions are ripe for an aggressive centralized leadership using nationalistic insular concepts.
The one thing favoring the continuation of a free and open society is the fact that approximately one half of the US population realizes the dangers of a corrupt leadership, but the numbers are rising and will continue to rise if we descend into that hopelessness and 'turn off' that is so tempting.