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darknemus Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:11 PM
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They fear the truth.. (Banned from FR after agreeing to debate)
I highly encourage anyone to read this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/997460/posts?page=450

I was actively encouraged to debate a point - so I chose the CIA leak. Not only does my initial post appear removed, they banned me - and yet their posters are actually saying 'let him stay' - and they wonder why the word 'fascist' is tossed around so 'liberally' (pardon the pun) in regards to FReeperville.

Scary stuff - I can only hope that our Country doesn't truly fall into the same slippery slope.. (I know it kind of is already.. but there's always a chance for recovery)

-darknemus
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:12 PM
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1. I watched that happen and knew they'd kick you out.
Free speech is not allowed there, even if there a couple of people who are reasonable.

Once that guy called in the troops, I knew you were toast.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:48 PM
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15. Disenting opinion
is not allowed here either, if you support Bush or anyother candidate then the democratic one, you are not welcomed here.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:14 PM
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2. And you were so honest that you actually confirmed your
DU identity to them! They kicked you out anyway!
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darknemus Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:16 PM
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3. Oh well - they're calling me an idiot
And whathavenot. It is sad, as I really thought we could have fun with it. I do like their method of editing history. Still, its amusing, if nothing else.

Ok, I'll go back to normal DU'er mode.

Arnold smells.

That's for you, FReepers.. not the nice ones, of course - but the ones that gloat that the opposition is silenced. Careful, Karma's a bitch.

-darknemus
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:18 PM
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5. Howlin probably hit the alert button.
As soon as she showed up with her bias, you were banned.
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darknemus Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:20 PM
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6. Oh well
I really was looking forward to the logical reasoning why no Independent Counsel should be allowed in the CIA leak matter. I guess that, by silencing the opposition, they feel somehow vindicated - sounds alot like the current Administration.

-darknemus
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:24 PM
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7. Exactly. Nothing but group think. But I admired your attempt
at rational discussion anyway.

I was going to post to you in the thread, but I knew that we'd both get axed that way!
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:51 PM
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17. We silence the oppostion too....
And I'm not complaining about that AT ALL. But seems a little weird to stand on your soapbox while we do the exact same thing here.
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:42 PM
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12. Same Would Happen Here
If it were reversed - once you outed yourself as a Freeper here at DU - you would have been banned immediately. What's the difference?
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darknemus Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:55 PM
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20. Well they claim otherwise in that thread
They say that they have no problem with Liberals there and enjoy debating with them. That was what I jumped on - the couple people I was directly interacting with seemed genuine. Then 'the man' stepped in and it was all over :) - needless to say, I wont be posting there anymore.. undercover or not - Not worth the effort.

-darknemus
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:17 PM
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4. at least "stormfront "
has a forum where anyone can post differing views other than the "i hate everyone but arayns" forums in their website.the freep site is pretty thin skinned
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:26 PM
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8. they arent scared...
They have no need to debate. They just put some celebrity up for vote and they win.. screw debates. They win without then anyway
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darknemus Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:34 PM
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9. Good point..
I wonder what kind of conditions GWB and his team are going to put on Debates come Election 2K4

-darknemus
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:36 PM
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10. lowest common denominator
There is no way we can win by debating though detaild issues, the debate will be 911, guns, and alquaida.


More advanced then that and believe me the sheep will switch channel. Sorry but we have to face the fact that ppl are stupid
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Fish Eye Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:39 PM
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11. I was booted from Freeperville
and other posters asked why. The one thing that I have noticed is that when someone is removed from DU there is usually little concern from other DU posters.

What does this mean???

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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:42 PM
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13. that their mods doesnt allow debate?
That when someone here gets banned its mostly valid, when someone gets banned from fr its because he/she has unpleasant views
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:48 PM
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16. You are WRONG
"...when someone here gets banned its mostly valid, when someone gets banned from fr its because he/she has unpleasant views."

Huh? If anybody outs themselves as a Freeper here at DU, they will immediately be banned. It's in the rules!

There's no difference. The boards are for those of like-mind and both of them say that clearly upfront. I see no problem.

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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:52 PM
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18. Agreed
I see no problem here.

I don't want a board that is nothing but bullshit hateful fighting between left and right. We have enough bullshit hateful fighting between left and left to get in!

OOOOOOOOOooooooooooooohhhh! :D

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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:53 PM
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19. Here's our rule on the matter
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 02:55 PM by JasonBerry
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:46 PM
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14. Occasionally someone will be booted from DU and folks
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 02:47 PM by w4rma
will complain. Many times, the poster will get their account back, then.

But, most folks who are banned from DU are just flat out neo-conservative disruptors.

It means that the folks running FreeRepublic aren't listening to the folks posting on FreeRepublic as closely as the folks running DU are listening to the folks posting on DU.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:22 PM
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23. Huh?
In almost every case when a regular DU'er is banned, there is some discussion on the matter, either in The Lounge or in Ask The Administrators.

I think you drew your conclusions too quickly.
The Professor
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donotpassgo Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:08 PM
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21. I was banned there after a lengthy stay...
but only after questioning Rove's prior media leaks. Dissent over there is 'moderator removed'

I'm so sick of FR...how they can condemn liberals as the scum of the earth and then defend the mongrel yokel bigots that post there.

Just do a search on homosexuals...you will read about homo's and queers and evil and they deserve to die of Aids and a lot of other vicious stuff.

Do a search on Islam and count the number of times you read about towel heads, and cult worshippers.

How many times will you read about wiping liberals off the face of the earth, or an American one party system.

How many posts are there about putting land mines across our borders and building an 'American Berlin Wall'

Freepers are cruel, racist, and ghoulish. Read your own posts, trolls. YOU have a search function. Read the daily hate spewed from Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS. Read posts like this from MeekMom "NO MORE MOSLEMS IN OUR ARMED SERVICES!!!
NO MORE MOSLEMS IN AMERICA!!!
NO MORE MOSLEMS IN OUR GOVERNMENT!!!" Ahhh...good old Facism cloaked in the stars and stripes. I guess Racism and murderous hatred of dark people is as American as Apple Pie.


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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:18 PM
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22. You know what would be great?
Inviting a select few over who can actually spell and don't live in a trailer park and organize a debate on issues.

Source a few smart ones, create a thread and issue a challenge to come over and debate on DU.

See what the cream of Freepsville can do in a civil setting on important issues. They are not all idiots over there. I have seen some sharp minds (very few mind you).

Just an idea.

Bit like Fight Club in the DU arena.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:44 PM
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24. Pretty happy with Schwarzennegger's victory.....
I wonder why? Is this the new Republican Party? Run a serial molester who has a Hitlerian desire to have "power over people"? Sounds like their Party is quickly devolving into corrupt meaninglessness. I wonder how they will spin Arnie's inability to rsolve the financial crisis that their pResident and his #1 backer laid on California?

Give it a another year or 2, they will eventually understand why it's not in their best interests to vote against your best interests.
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