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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:01 PM
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This is a disturbing quote from Cohen
Now just think if Jesse Jackson had said something like this the media would have a headline that Jesse favored genocide for whatever group he was talking about. I think this is a horrid comment to make in such a nonchalant way. Just shows you what kind of evil we are dealing with. I sure hope these people don't immigrate here with their hatefulness. How much more control of our country do they need?

Sounds like he's sorry that the world won't allow genocide and that he approves of what we did to the Native Americans.

"For a people of the book, for a country created by history as well as by men, Israel acts as if nothing that went before has any bearing on what is happening now. But history admonishes Israel. The only places where a Western culture has successfully transplanted itself are those where great population pressure and genocidal methods were used to extirpate the indigenous peoples. This is what happened in the United States."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53169-2003Oct6.html


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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:08 PM
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1. Saying it happened -- means you approve of it?
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 01:14 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
That is backwards thinking. The first step in overcoming injustice and oppresion is recognizing that it exists.

For a people of the book, for a country created by history as well as by men, Israel acts as if nothing that went before has any bearing on what is happening now. But history admonishes Israel. The only places where a Western culture has successfully transplanted itself are those where great population pressure and genocidal methods were used to extirpate the indigenous peoples. This is what happened in the United States.

Genocide is out of the question. Neither the world nor Israeli morality would permit it. Yet Israel keeps lengthening the odds against itself. Instead of withdrawing to where Jews are a clear majority, it continues to cling to settlements where Jews are outnumbered. Every settlement, every day of occupation, puts Israel in greater and greater danger. Each settlement is a provocation. The deportation or killing of Arafat will do nothing but make him a martyr and exacerbate the chaos. The man himself is only a symptom of Israel's problem.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53169-2003Oct6.html



The next sentence in the article after your quote is: "Genocide is out of the question." -- and you conclude: "Sounds like he's sorry that the world won't allow genocide"?

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:18 PM
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2. I Think It's a Good Editorial
It's pretty close to my own position. I wish there were more like it.

Genocide is out of the question. Neither the world nor Israeli morality would permit it. Yet Israel keeps lengthening the odds against itself...

The idyllic Zionist dream is in tatters. No one wants to go to Israel. On the contrary, people want to leave....

Israel lashes out. It has now bombed Syria. What next? Iran? This is not strategy. It is fury.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:35 PM
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3. Considering what a charged issue this is
I think it's a pretty good article. Genocide should ALWAYS be out of the question, I don't think the author ment it as if he were thinking of it as an option.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:45 PM
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4. Either you're deliberately misconstruing this passage
or you didn't read it very carefully. Where do you see 'approval' for Israel's position here? It seems to me these sentences,

For a people of the book, for a country created by history as well as by men, Israel acts as if nothing that went before has any bearing on what is happening now. But history admonishes Israel....

rather clearly set up the writer as being critical of Israel, not apologetic for it. Do you know what "admonish" means?

Oh, wait a sec. You said, "How much more control of our country do they need?" I guess your position is clear then. You did deliberately misconstrue it.
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