Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Dem argument about lack of Bush Post-war planning sucks...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:16 PM
Original message
The Dem argument about lack of Bush Post-war planning sucks...
Edited on Sun Oct-12-03 03:41 PM by TruthIsAll
That is just another way of saying the war was justified, but the aftermath should have been better planned for.

Bushit! We should NEVER have gone in to Iraq. Period.

Why not criticize the Pre-war LIES to Congress and the U.N. about WMD and the UNILATERAL War without a U.N. resolution.

And the war is NOT over yet, either..

Once again, the Dems are giving Bush a gift!

We should argue pre 9/11 incompetence (or worse); post 9/11 coverup; pre-Iraq war lies; post-invasion no-bids to halliburton/carlyle, etc.; sinking soldier morale; ongoing casualties; and let's bring 'em home instead of Bush's bring 'em on..

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:19 PM
Response to Original message
1. Well, you heard Ted Kennedy
say this war was a fraud. How many of those Dem Senators backed him up?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. exactly..
are these people jsut afraid of getting more of those suspicious packages in the mail, or are they merely beholden to the same interests as the BFEE?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. I'll go with the latter
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:20 PM
Response to Original message
2. Even if you are right
It makes an argument that even a hawk has to acknoledge. Then you work your way back to why it was so poorly planned, and why it really happened in the first place... Smaller leaps, easier to connect dots.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. what isn't said is this:
Chaos in Iraq makes money for the BFEE. Extended chaos makes more money.

They didn't plan because they make more money through the destruction and rebuilding process.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Did anybody else hear
Joe Biden say that the AK47's sold in Iraq for $5,000? Meanwhile the US is offering a $500 reward for those that are turned in. And further, that the US says they don't have enough men to guard the ammunition place where the AK47's are stored. He said you can just go in there and buy some. Somebody's making money, fer sure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:32 PM
Response to Original message
7. Remember Raiders of the Lost Ark?
Personally, I think we have taken the lid off the Ark of the Covenant. It is fitting that the nazis did so in the movie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
8. They say that Bush's main mistake was not getting approval of your allies.
Edited on Sun Oct-12-03 03:51 PM by glarius
They seem to be assuming that if Bush had just asked a little nicer and longer, the rest of the world would have fallen in line....My impression is that except for Britain and Australia, the rest of the former friends of the U.S.A. had decided they did not think war was warranted...I heard Senator Kerry say this morning (as have others) that Bush should be talking nice to the allies now and he could still get them to send their troops to replace the Americans...Is he serious?...I think what is being forgotten is that these countries do not want to send their young soldiers to become sitting ducks when their citizens have demonstrated how much against this war they are!
My country, Canada has a large contingent in Afghanistan and has committed $300 million to help in Iraq, but they do not intend to send soldiers to Iraq....The sad thing about all this is that the poor young American soldiers seem to be stuck with this mess!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 04:08 PM
Response to Original message
9. The House mark up on the $87 B
D Rep. Murka(sp?), of Penn. stated that he had never gotten so much mail in his career as he had against this $87B grant. Yet he supported the sum!!

Beholden to the big money interests, the Congress is in no mood to not dish out the cash to Halliburton, et al. Do you know how many campaign contributions will trickle down on them for their votes?

The only out for the US at this point is to get our soldiers out now and let the Iraqi's invite in whoever they need. The total for the occupation is going to run in excess of $400B if we don't get out now. I don't see how even one single so called CONservative can honestly support this boondoggle.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 13th 2024, 08:42 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC