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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:00 PM
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Edwards on MSNBC now!
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 06:01 PM by quinnox
Should be good, a full hour of questions.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:01 PM
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1. GREAT reception from the crowd.
For the Red Sox, too.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:14 PM
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2. this is a gutsy move by him
I hope Edwards can come out of this intact, and in relatively good standing.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:28 PM
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3. Edwards has to get beyond how Bush screwed up
This is not just Edwards problem, of course, but if voters don't hear how he intends to fight the war on terrorism differently, Bush bashing will only go so far.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:30 PM
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4. He is handling himself very well...
I don't agree with his vote on the resolution but he makes some good points:

1. Edwards would have brought U.S. friends and allies into the decision to invade the war and NOT gone in without their support.

2. British support just wasn't enough, nor was the support of Poland and Outer Mongolia or the island of Togo's half-a-dozen soldiers.

3. He says Bush is trying to get support "after the fact." That's like calling 911 the day after you've been robbed
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:43 PM
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8. I love how he's not taking any sh** from Tweety.
He's got just the right mix of combativeness and humor.

It's early. And this guy is good.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:43 PM
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6. I think John Edward's performance on Hardball...
will give him a boost with moderate Democrats and Independents. Maybe even some moderate Republicans.

Bush won S. Carolina by about 371,000 votes in 2000. We have to make sure that doesn't happen again.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:43 PM
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7. Good and bad...
If it weren't for his unequivocal pro-invasion stance, I could support this guy. It's really frustrating; he's got a lot of good ideas.

Don't get me wrong--I'll vote for the guy with no compunction, if he's the nominee.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:19 PM
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22. do you ever step back from you're anti-war mindset and....
think about an alternative and better way to pro-actively illiberalise the middle east, which is what the invasion was basically about.

It had more to do with Ryahd and Tehran in the shortterm and Baghdad in the long term.

Just curious.

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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:44 PM
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9. Edwards kicking Tweety in the nuts
every time Tweety tries to get Edwards to criticize Kerry and Dean for growing up "rich." Is Matthews mentally deficient? What doesn't he get here?
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:45 PM
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10. What the hell did Tweety just say about California?
I swear he said it was a cluster f*ck--and then realized he was on the air...
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:06 PM
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21. He said cluster bust
Or something like that. He didn't realize that the show wasn't back on yet and that it was really just one of those things where he says that Hardball will be come back in a few minutes. I guess they call it a cluster buster or something because it breaks up the cluster of commercials.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:46 PM
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11. Superb performance by Edwards
It's a night and day difference between this time and last time he was on with Matthews.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:47 PM
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12. I take back my no Edwards for Dean VP comment
in another thread that has been locked. His domestic stance on the middle class would help Dean a lot. While I don't fault Dean for repealing all of shrub's tax cuts, I wish he'd keep the middle class benefits, but if Dean can create jobs, provide health care, etc. - then that would help the middle class as much as keeping the middle class tax cuts.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:55 PM
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17. It's not my intention to be confrontational, but...
...I just don't see how we're going to get the middle class pull us out of this sink if we dont undburden them on the tax front. America gets rich from labour. By taxing the hell out of the people who create the most wealth form labour, we're making it too expensive for the middle class do the job they want to do.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:57 PM
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19. Oh, hello. Edwards should be at the top of the ticket.
No way, Dean outflanks him.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:48 PM
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13. Tweety: another slam against Gore. Nice.
What a prick.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:49 PM
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14. This is just something I have been thinking since the first of the debates
But does anyone else feel like Edwards may be campaigning to be the vice presidential nominee? I think personally he could hold his own against Dickhead Cheney, and he has this JFK youth and energy surrounding him that could potentially get Democrats who have lost faith in the party to vote. A Kerry-Edwards or Dean-Edwards ticket would be so much stronger than Gore-Lieberman, and we democrats may win the election again and this time not have the election stole'd from us.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:55 PM
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16. OMG - Edwards is going toe to toe with humor and grace and good ideas.
He has done what I have not seen any other candidate do - disarm the whores with his charm. Clark may be able to do it. Dean - not a chance, Kerry - maybe.

This has been a wonderful performance. Edwards is goooood.


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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:50 PM
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15. Tweety: "people say if the entire Democratic legislature in California
had been on the recall ballot, they would have been thrown out of office as well". What people? And only Democrats in the legislature?

Fuck Tweety.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:56 PM
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18. Actually, he's probably right.
People were, rightly or wrongly, very upset with the status quo. I don't doubt that the entire state legislature--dem and 'puke alike--would have been ousted.

I also think that this anti-incumbency bent in CA may spread to the rest of the country. Let's not lose hope just yet.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:05 PM
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20. I don't think any politicians would survive a vote in which, first, you
vote thumbs up or thumbs done, not knowing whom they're running against, and then you get a speculative vote for any one of hundreds of other candidates.

That kind of ballot is designed to ensure that the incumb. loses.
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