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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:12 AM
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Holy cow (unnamed Dem beats Bush 49-44 among registered voters)abc/poll
WOW

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Oct. 14 — Democrats match up well against President Bush in a new poll that highlights his vulnerability on Iraq and the economy.
The ABC News-Washington Post poll found that 49 percent of registered voters would support an unnamed Democrat and 44 percent would support Bush in a head-to-head matchup.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20031014_1767.html

And it gets better:
Among Independents
Dem – 47%
Bush – 41%

Among Moderates
Dem – 53%
Bush – 38%



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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:19 AM
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1. I love the smell of looming victory in the morning.
Just nominate someone worthwhile ... and verify every ballot counted by getting voting fraud checks instituted (Paging Jimmy Carter!).
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:55 AM
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6. What about the smell of eggs hatching?
This is way too early too call. Bush will have $200 mil to spend/bribe/cheat/steal his way to another "victory" in 04. And I believe he will do it. The ensuing rioting in the streets will give the GOP the final push it needs to enact the rest of their Nazi Enabling Act of 1933 legistlation, aka, The Patriot Act.

They will not care about the rioting in the streets. I am sure it is part of the plan. The ends justify the means, after all. And they mean to change the world, literally, into their own private Corporate Haven.

Serf's up!
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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:39 PM
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7. He's already tried bribery
Imagine where the number would be if he didn't kick out a check this summer to every man, woman and child in the country.
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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:24 AM
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2. Note that "moderate" number???
Let it sink in. Think. And don't do something stupid on Primary Day in your state and give those "moderates" someone who will drive them back to Bush. It's just lying their for the taking----do we "take" or blow our stupid foot off as usual for the "principal" of the thing??
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:32 AM
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3. He sure picked a nice time to insult the mainstream media, didn't he?
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 08:33 AM by rocknation
Of course, the regional reporters he's decided to embrace should be insulted, too. Surely they realize that Georgie is banking on their being too inexperienced or too easily intimidated to ask him any in-depth questions.


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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:30 AM
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4. Other interesting findings
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 10:31 AM by Woodstock
Men favored Bush by 50-44, while women favored the Democrat by 50-42.

Among individual candidates, of Democrats and those who lean Democratic:

Dean 17 percent
Gephardt 13 percent
Clark 12 percent
Kerry 10 percent
Lieberman 9 percent

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Politics/iraq_economics031014_poll.html
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:55 AM
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5. Men 50-44
I would take that.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:48 PM
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8. unnamed democrat has no negatives
As far as it goes, an unnamed democrat beating Bush is good news.

But an unnamed Democrat has almost no negatives (well except perhaps to some Conservatives for being a Democrat)

Any real Democratic candidate will have real negatives, from
personality to policy positions etc. See the many "I don't trust X because of Y" right here on DU." And these attacks do work even here to some extent.

With 200 million in the kitty, Bush and his PACs will be able to seriously raise the negatives of any Democratic candidate.

This means Bush is still likely to win. Also keep in mind that the economy may really be starting to improve this time, which may translate into a big bonus for Bush.

The key will be to vaccinate the public against the amplifying the negatives. Does anyone have good ideas how to do this effectively?


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