What if September 11th never happened?

Would we have still gone to war with Iraq?

This hit me one day...What do you guys think?

Without the fear backing this admin, there would be nothing to bludgeon our senses with.

Bush would have the same amount of support he has now.
He would get nothing done, the government would be dominated by Democrats.
He'd resign in disgrace shortly after.
America would still be the good guy.

His tax cuts weren't working and people were still upset about the 00 election (or lack thereof). 9/11 helped with a lot more than invading Iraq. People rallied and stopped questioning his abilities. Remember, just before 9/11 a delegation of US lawmakers walked out of a meeting in Africa (a summit I think) because someone used the word Zionists when referring to Israel?

GWB and his regime have ridden 9-11 into the ground. The turning points were the title of the PDB of August 6, 2001, Hurricane Katrina, and the Plame outting indictments.

Now we have hope of impeaching him if the Democratic Party can win back the House. Hopefully we can then repair our reputation and undo some of what's been done in the name of 9/11.

See him turn global well-wishes into utter hatred! Stand aside, Copperfield!

which they knew would be needed in order to sell the public on a war (or an endless war) in the Middle East. 9/11 was their Pearl Harbor, as * supposedly wrote in his diary. So, without it, they wouldn't have had the excuse. That doesn't mean something else wouldn't have happened that they would have used.

lines and is as lazy as shit would keep a diary? I think this was part of same line of bull that said Bush "leapt into action" when in fact he was listening to "My Pet Goat."

We would have seen the same thing that we're seeing now if there were no 911.

23 parallel universes.... in one or more of them there may be an earth on which either 911 wasn't planned, or the recount went forward in Florida without republican interference and Al Gore won and 911 was foiled as were the other terror events addressed by BC.

If you could, would you get in a machine that would transport you to one of those other universes in which either of the two above scenarious took place? Something to think about, huh?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/paralleluni.shtml
Scientists now believe there may really be a parallel universe - in fact, there may be an infinite number of parallel universes, and we just happen to live in one of them. These other universes contain space, time and strange forms of exotic matter. Some of them may even contain you, in a slightly different form. Astonishingly, scientists believe that these parallel universes exist less than one millimetre away from us. In fact, our gravity is just a weak signal leaking out of another universe into ours.

It does make you think though :)

and it goes exactly along the lines of parallel universes.... happy ending, joy joy..... :)

... where President Bush brings in national health care.

...where GHWB's condom DOESN'T break....

drinking anything at that moment..... lol. :)

That would be interesting....No W....

The one with all the different Enterprises on the screen.

back to the planet of illusions....

universes right about now. This universe really, really sucks.

president for sure. His approval ratings prior to 9/11 were not good for a new president. 9/11 gave his administration a theme and for a time he was able to fool a lot of people (note his 90% approval rating at one point). In 2002 the recession would have gotten more attention than it did--instead of foreign policy dominating. Without 9/11 Bush would have needed another rationale for going to war in Iraq and it is possible that such a war resolution vote wouldn't have passed.

if not for 9/11 and "terra". The man campaigned on FEAR.

They were hoping for just such an event.

But, that doesn't mean to say that they wouldn't gin something up, some minor incident that's wildly exaggerated, or even something that's totally made up (like a vast troop build-up on the border with Saudi Arabia).

9/11 was a goldmine for them. But they would have dug long and hard to get paydirt another way.

justify the PNAC agenda.

Amazing how the failures of GWB (deliberate or not) have made him into a hero in less intelligent circles.

Hmmmmm......

Thanks for responses. I believe them all to be true, however dramatic they might seem (mainly to republicans). :thumbsup:

I will always believe that. Always.

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Have been allowed to assume the office that he was ELECTED to assume by the majority of the people.

Had President Gore of been sitting in the Oval Office, then September 11th 2001 would have JUST been ANOTHER day.

who remember the Newsweek story that was about to be published around the time of 9/11 about election fraud in Florida. Around that time the press was starting to cover stories critical of him, his administration, and how he got into office. It wasn't until 9/11 happened that you hated America if you didn't support Bush. He had already been trying to push the Patriot Act through under a different name but was failing. It took a nation tragedy to get people to not question and support his policies.

It is amazing that this tragedy has benefited him so much. I bet he is VERY GLAD 9/11 happened. Sickening... :puke:

on capitol hill on 9/11.

then. But it never happened.

Bush would have come up with equally lame "intel" and attacked Iraq a couple of months before the 2004 election. He would have made no effort to spare innocent life, he'd have done the carrier flight horseshit, and would have won the election in a relative landslide because of the number of brainwashed idiots we have in this country after a "stay the course, especially in wartime" campaign.

Bush may be a dumb fuck, but that asshole Rove is not.

And we would be in Iraq.

The one that proved Gore won the election.

Maybe Chimpy wouldn't have been there to invade Iraq. And Gore sure as fuck wouldn't have. Even IF there were a 9/18 or a 9/25 or any other such thing.

Which there wouldn't have been. Because Gore's cabinet wouldn't have been made up of PNAC'ers who demanded the existence of such an event.