Cynthia McKinney - one of the best

Just wanted to give props to my gurl.

Cynthia knows 9/11 was an inside job.

I want her for President!

A very classy lady fighting for the truth.

Oh, yeah, Welcome to DU!

Welcome :hi: to DU!

:hi:

Great outspoken lady. She came to one of the first war protests I went to in Wash D.C. She really got the crowd fired up. :bounce:

Welcome to DU.:hi:

She is the only Democrat I've worked to defeat. Mainly because I firmly believe she was (is?) taking campaign money from organizations that have been linked to Hamas and other extremist fundy movements. At least she's not as bad as Barbara Lee, though.

And I don't buy the GOP smears. She is not an anti-semite, she's just not a puppet of Israel.

Especially taking money from Rafeeq Jaber (and others).

smear campaign against McKinney. I live in Atlanta. Neal Boortz has been beating this drum incessantly for years. He's a racist, sexist hatemonger. And of course, McKinney pushes all the buttons for all the old white men who hate women and minorities. Especially when they're tall, smart women like McKinney.
Sorry you fell for their lies.

records are inaccurate?

Hey, I know you want to continue the hate campaign, but you'll have to supply specifics and prove (you know, like the Bush administration did with the WMD) that McKinney's contributors are known terrorist organizations and NOT just organizations of which you disapprove. Go ahead. Cherrypick. Show the uranium from Africa, etc.
But just implying that records exist which prove MdKinney is part of terrorism is below DU standards. Turn off the hate radio. Those folks can get by with gossip and half-truths. You'll be called out here.

I don't listen to "hate radio" Boorts or any of that crap. And what's this shit about uranium in Africa and cherrypicking for WMD? I AM AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ. PERIOD. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about here.

Stick to the facts here. Is your argument so weak you have to rely on strawman arguments?

I'm telling you if you try a little research, look at the FEC records, do a little reading on the organizations, then you might have a little more to think about.

I see a trend in this thread. If you're not for McKinney, then you're branded a talk radio listener. Brilliant.

Sorry, I know what I've read, I know what I've been able to put together from a myriad of sources. I will continue to oppose her and get a responsible Democrat in her place.

Give us specifics. Not "I know what I've read." Or, just read Yollam's debunking of your supposed links. Now there's someone who knows how to make a point.
As for the "uranium in Africa"..that's pretty clear. I'm comparing you to the Bushies. You're going to war based on cherrypicked evidence.
And I'm also comparing your posts to hateradio because you're dealing in innuendo instead of primary sources.
Read Yollam. He's done his homework.
Or. Go to one of the crazy.com sites which link McKinney to terrorists. And post that link. Imagine how impressed we'll be.

doing other peoples' homework for them, but I'll point you in the right direction, for starters.

Please note before we get started: I never said she was "involved in terrorism" or any version of that claim. I said she has (and might still be) taking money from organizations that have links to terrorist groups. Got it? Okay, good.

Cynthia McKinney took campaign money from Rafeeq Jaber who was president of the Islamic Association for Palestine. This is public information, in the FEC records. Fact. Period.

The IAP was founded by (last name) Marzook, a leader of Hamas. Steve Emerson (who is one of the foremost experts on terrorist groups, other than Peter Bergen) testified under oath before a Senate Committee that there is evidence that the IAP charter was written by Hamas leaders and members in the 1980's. The former FBI counterterrorism chief (last name Revell I think) has stated time and again that there is indeed evidence that the IAP is a Hamas front group.

It doesn't end there. There is much more along these lines in her campaign finance record...if you take the time to do some independent research. There's plenty to start your Google expedition. Those are things I remember off the top of my head. What I'm not in the mood to do is go around searching for all of the information that you could find if you were truly interested in knowing the facts. Which, I fear, you're not.

It's pathetic that you rely on the crutch buzzword "hate" (no evidence that I "hate" her, I just oppose her) and it's truly very telling that you quickly resort to comparing me with the * admin. You are clearly devoid of any substantive contribution here.

Cheers.

to provide links

You are just repeating the same old smear bullshit that was used last time.

haven't done any research.

Which is why you didn't respond substantively to the example given in my post.

I'll await someone who wants to discuss the issue. Thanks

I'm calling you on it.

getting the facts. I gave you one example. I'm not going to do your homework for you.

But I'll share this recent article with you.

A great representative, huh?

http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=71157

Look. Cynthia McKinney is the representative from my district in Georgia. I am not going to let you slime her with nebulous "off the top of my head" comments. She's been under attack incessantly. And we re-elect her.
If you truly are interested in ties to terrorism, you might want to extend your research to this administration and Saudi Arabia...that's where the terrorists who killed our people came from on 9-11. That's where the terrorism schools are. And that's where the funding originates.
But. Then you wouldn't be sliming Cynthia. You'd be tangled up in the Bushies.
Neal Boortz spent his radio program reading off all the Arabic names..Muhammad etc...who had contributed to Cynthia's re-election. Guess what? In DeKalb Co. many of our residents are named...Muhammad. In fact, our military first identified the enemy in Iraq as Muhammad (you know, like Charlie during Viet Nam) until there were complaints from our many soldiers named...Muhammad. Since then, the enemy is "Hadji".
Keep that little parable in mind. Not all people named Muhammad are the enemy
And if you have the time, you could find the same "ties to groups that might have ties to terrorists..might, maybe..." for absolutely every member of Congress.

You aren't interested in talking about this in a serious manner. You asked for my examples, I gave you one, and you come back with the same stuff you posted...none of it addressing the issues at hand.

I'm done with this.

...and that may be the case, but I have seen no documentation of that whatsoever. I have read a length story in the Jewish pub "Forward"...
http://www.forward.com/issues/2001/01.12.07/news2.html
...that outlined some very nebulous connection between McKinney and Hamas in a very 6 degrees of separation way, but I have googled Jaber and McKinney, and haven't found anything supporting your case that wasn't from an ultra-right-wing source.

I would appreciate some credible links to support your accusations, and would like to remind people that taking money from an individual who heads an organization that is ALLEGEDLY linked to Hamas is a far fry from supporting Hamas, and in the aforementioned article, you will see that both Bush & Hillary Clinton also got donations from Hamas-linked individuals, and Bush never returned his donation...

I urge you to consider doing your own research.

You want evidence she took money from Rafeeq Jaber? Here you go: http://herndon2.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00256354/124538/sa/ALL

Search for his name. Or, hell, take a look at the entire list.

Rafeeq Jaber
9748 S Meade
Oak Lawn, Illinois 60453 self 06/03/2004 1000.00

It seems that Jaber is on the board of a mosque that has been under investigation for the links you claim for over 12 years, but where are the convictions? What exactly has Jaber done?

I don't know that I would agree with this person's beliefs, but at this point is he or is he not innocent until proven guilty?

Why does taking money from a Muslim person whose mosque is under investigation make McKinney some sort of terrorist? I don't get it.

I'm sure George Bush has gotten TONS of donations from people involved with groups under investigation for abortion clinic bombings, and if you look at the big-business donors, you'd be hard-pressed to find a single one that isn't crooked in one way or another.


So why the scrutiny on McKinney's donations, and only hers. because she was the ONLY one who spoke up when everyone else was cowed. PERIOD.

She deserves a goddamn medal.

And if Rafeeq is ever convicted of anything, I'll be the first to call on her to return his donation.

They are no better than Hamas, IMO.

She was also heavily funded by neocon Zionist outfit AIPAC.

Good riddance.

you honestly believe that the GOP is "no better" than Hamas?

I understand political differences, as I have them with the GOP, but that kind of statement just gets you ignored because it's ridiculous.

It's not as though there's a shortage of things for which the GOP and * himself can be blamed and ridiculed. Damn. Keep it realistic.

They are an extremist fascist organization that has no qualms about using assassination and international terrorism to line their pockets and amass power.

The fact that they are much better funded than Hamas and slightly more selective in their targeting of victims gives them a veneer of legitimacy, especially in the US, where we are more comfortable culturally with people who pretend to be "Christians" than we are with Muslims, but that doesn't change the reality of what they are. These people murdered more Iraqis in a few months than Hamas has killed in its entire history. These people deliberately allowed our World Trade Center to be destroyed and thousands of occupants killed. These people murdered Allende because they didn't like his egalitarian ideas. True, there is a faction of the democratic party that is as murderous, but I do not support them either.

I see nothing 'unrealistic' about it.

You mean the GOP, and the FBI, CIA, NSA... they all did that?

LOL. Listen, I said before I was going to ignore you for being unrealistic. But I had to chime in one last time on the 9/11 topic.

I dunno. You could be right. Do you think Martians prefer Cheerios to Raisin Bran? That's an answer I've been looking for for quite a while now. :crazy:

Just the ones with power, the ones that matter.

You can poke fun all you want. You think the GOP are better than Hamas? You could work with them? Fine. Not me. The mafia have higher ethical standards.

...from the NY-based Jewish publication "Forward"

http://www.forward.com/issues/2001/01.12.07/news2.html

Israel Backers Show Dual Loyalty, Congressional Aide Says in Letter

By RACHEL DONADIO
FORWARD STAFF
An aide to a Democratic congresswoman from Georgia resigned under fire last week after declaring that Jewish members of Congress have divided loyalties between America and Israel.

It was not, however, the first time the aide had aired such views. Before signing on with Rep. Cynthia McKinney of Atlanta in September, Raeed Tayeh worked for two organizations that reportedly are linked to the Islamic terrorist group Hamas.

Mr. Tayeh's comments appeared in a letter to the editor in the November 28 issue of The Hill, a Washington weekly. "What is more disturbing to me is that many of these pro-Israeli lawmakers sit on the House International Relations Committee despite the obvious conflict of interest that their emotional attachments to Israel cause," he wrote, identifying himself as a member of Ms. McKinney's staff. "The Israeli occupation of all territories must end, including Congress," he added.

The letter drew strong condemnations. Mr. Tayeh's accusations recalled "the most vile anti-Semitic canards that have been invoked against Jews throughout the ages," said Ira Forman, director of the National Jewish Democratic Council.

Mr. Tayeh has served on the executive board of the Islamic Association for Palestine, based in Richardson, Texas and Chicago. Authorities say that the IAP's finances are entwined with those of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, also based in Richardson and Chicago. On Tuesday, the government froze the assets of the foundation, saying that it finances the terrorist group Hamas.

As recently as this fall Mr. Tayeh worked as a researcher at the United Association for Studies and Research. In 1993 a convicted Hamas operative testified in an Israeli court that the UASR was the political arm of Hamas in the United States.

The IAP, UASR and Holy Land Foundation are co-defendants in a civil lawsuit filed in 2000 by the parents of an American teenager murdered by Hamas in Israel in 1996. The suit cites the financial connections between IAP and the Holy Land Foundation.

The UASR has strongly denied having links to Hamas. "My organization is not a Hamas 'front group' nor a 'political command center,' nor are we Hamas's 'strategic arm,'" Anisa Abd el Fattah, UASR media relations director, wrote in an October 10 letter to The Hill.

Reached by phone on Tuesday at the Virginia-based UASR, its president, Ahmed Youssef, told the Forward that he "really didn't know" whether Mr. Tayeh had ever worked for the UASR. Mr. Youssef declined to comment further.

Jewish activists familiar with the Islamic groups expressed alarm that Ms. McKinney had hired Mr. Tayeh. "While we appreciate the fact that she dismissed him, it again raises questions about her judgment in hiring someone who obviously had a track record of what we consider extreme views," said Jay Kaiman, Atlanta-based Southeast regional director of the Anti-Defamation League.

Ms. McKinney, one of the most pugnaciously liberal members of the Congressional Black Caucus, wrote a letter in October apologizing to Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal after New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani rejected the prince's $10 million donation toward relief after the September 11 World Trade Center attack. After making the gift, the prince suggested U.S. policy toward Israel was partly to blame for the September 11 attack.

Ms. McKinney appeared at an October 14 fundraiser of the Council on American Islamic Relations, which was incorporated in 1994 as an offshoot of IAP. She called CAIR "a reputable and respected Muslim civil-rights organization" in an October 10 letter to the editor of The Hill, adding that she was "proud" to appear at its event.

The day Mr. Tayeh's letter was published in The Hill, Ms. McKinney issued a "clarification" stating that it had not been an official communication from her. She said Mr. Tayeh had tendered his resignation and that she had accepted it. "He had only been on my staff for only two months and he may not have realized that his comments might be perceived to be an official statement," she said.

"There are also comments in this letter that do not reflect my thoughts and positions," Ms. McKinney said. She did not specify which comments.

Ms. McKinney's chief of staff, Mervyn Scott, did not return requests for comment. Attempts to reach Mr. Tayeh via email and phone were unsuccessful.

Rep. Eliot Engel of New York said he found it "very hard to believe" that a congressional staffer would send a letter "without that member of Congress, or anyone in their office, knowing about the letter."

Mr. Tayeh spoke at the same October 2000 pro-Palestinian rally in Lafayette Park in Washington, D.C., at which Abdurahman Alamoudi, president of the American Muslim Council and a donor to the campaigns of President Bush and Senator Hillary Clinton, declared his support for Hamas. Mrs. Clinton subsequently returned a contribution from Mr. Alamoudi. Mr. Bush did not.

At the rally, Mr. Tayeh introduced himself as a member of the Islamic Association for Palestine and delivered a speech in English and Arabic. According to a source who saw a videotape of the rally, Mr. Tayeh claimed that "all of Palestine is holy," that Palestine encompasses the land "from the river to the sea" — a reference to the illegitimacy of Israel — and that "Al Aqsa is not their temple," meaning that a Jewish temple never stood on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

At the rally, Mr. Tayeh referred to a poem he had written. In the poem, posted on the Internet, Mr. Tayeh longs for a day "when the refugees return, and when Zionism will die." He identifies himself as "An American-born writer originally from Beit Hanina, a suburb of Jerusalem."

On December 1, authorities deported a leader of the Texas branch of IAP, Ghassan Dahduli, on immigration violations. The government said Mr. Dahduli's name had been found in the address book of Wadih El-Hage, Osama bin Laden's former finance chief, who faces life in prison for his involvement in the 1998 bombings of two American embassies in east Africa.

Abdul Hamayel, who answered the phone Tuesday at the Chicago branch of IAP, said that Mr. Tayeh no longer served on IAP's executive board.

Asked whether IAP and the Holy Land Foundation shared board members or had incorporated charities together, Mr. Hamayel said that he was "not aware of anything like that."

The Holy Land Foundation did not return a call for comment.

On Tuesday, Jewish groups across the political spectrum praised Mr. Bush for adding the Holy Land Foundation, the Al Aqsa International Bank and the Beit El-Mal Holdings Company to the list of groups that aid and abet Hamas.

I read through this, and I don't see how ANY of this could be construed as support by Ms. McKinney for Hamas. In fact, it shows even more direct links to Hillary Clinton and POS Bush (but at least Hillary returned her donation).

You complain about smears than you smear a Democrat who had a good voting record while in office. In fact it would have been great if she was able to win that Senate seat.

Just because she wasn't a grandstander like McKinney doesn't make her "fake" or a republican.

Personally I think McKinney has way too much baggage to be really effective especially her father's comments about her election defeat.

She was a registered republican up until the GOP and AIPAC decided to fund her underhanded campaign against McKinney, who was trying to get the truth out about 9/11 and Bush.

"She was a registered republican up"

Prove it.

And if Wayne Madsen is the source...don't bother.

Ditto for McKinney's loony tunes father.

Check out Majette's voting record...solid Democrat. If she had won the Senate seat, the Democrat would be in better shape.

So are you saying that Majette was NOT a republican before the 2002 primary?

That she DIDN't win by splitting the mostly black democrat vote and having thousands of republicans cross over just to get McKinney out?

And it's not just From the Wilderness that characterizes Majette as a republican.

The fact that she voted in the GOP primary is a matter of public recod and she does not deny it.

http://ajc.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=Charges+hurled+in+final+debate&expire=&urlID=11262401&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ajc.com%2Fnews%2Fcontent%2Fnews%2Felection%2F0804georgia%2F09runoff.html&partnerID=552

Majette supports the GOP scheme for a regressive national sales tax. She voted for Alan Keyes in the 2000 primary! She has voted mostly democratic in other primaries, but claims she voted for Keyes on the basis of race(!?) Of all black men to rush out and support, why a far-right, fundamentalist looney tune? And over Al Gore no less!

Sorry, but I'll take McKinney over the GOP slime machine Majette married herself to any day.

Greg Palast has compiled a number of examples of slander thrown at McKinney by Majette and her AIPAC/DLC/GOP supporters:

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=229&row=1

Would Majette have ever said this?

Two years ago I asked,'What did the Bush Administration know, and when did it know it, about the events of September 11th?' Today, the Bush Administration continues its refusal to tell the American people how it was that all fail-safe mechanisms and standard operating procedures failed to operate for the four separate hijackings that took place on that single day. Furthermore, the American people only have assurances from the Bush Administration that the measures put in place since September 11th will actually protect us from another such tragedy.

But now, we are painfully aware that we cannot trust the assurances coming from the Bush Administration.

Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, appearing before the 9-11 Commission, in trying to explain how September 11th happened stated, 'I just don't think we had the imagination required to consider a tragedy of this magnitude.'

If we accept this as an official explanation from the Bush Administration on how September 11th happened, then it is painfully clear that it is time for the George W. Bush presidency to end.

Cynthia McKinney, upon announcing her candidacy to win back her district for DEMOCRATS.


Of course not. Why would she rail against her boss?

First Palast is dealing with what MSM did to McKinney. Majette wasn't part of that.

Oh my god she once voted in a Republican PRIMARY! Guess what half the DUers/Democrats in CA voted in a Republican primary when we had an open system similar to GA. Why? because McCain was preferable to Bush by a long shot. If she wanted to support a black man running not matter his politics well that's her business and it does not make her a Republican. Pathetic Oxford was getting his brains beat in so he went vicious.

"So are you saying that Majette was NOT a republican before the 2002 primary?"

Yes...I'm saying exactly that and your own sources that aren't from the wilderness back that. She voted in the GOP primary once and voted for Gore that year. Gore had the nomination locked up by the time, GA got their shot.

"That she DIDN't win by splitting the mostly black democrat vote and having thousands of republicans cross over just to get McKinney out?"

See here is where it gets tricky because the numbers are about supposition. GA doesn't have voter registration for party affiliation. You can vote in either primary but just one of them. Do I think there was a crossover vote to oust McKinney? Certainly. Do I think its was as large as McKinney supporters claim? I can't be sure because the numbers are about guessing.

Do you really think the party and GA are better served with a GOPer in the Senate seat Majette ran for? You didn't have to take either or. We could have had both if McKinney supporters weren't so vengeful. Another example of someone who makes a great soundbite but their effectiveness in pushing the message of the party is moot.

in spite and mushy "message of the party" stuff you think she should be pushing instead.

I took great interest in this thread since I live in Atlanta. Cynthia McKinney makes me sick to my stomach. What is becoming INCREDIBLY evident on the DU, is if you voice some sort of differing viewpoint on someone on our side, all the sudden you are some sort of liar or conversative and you have to prove your point fact by fact. If I'm not mistaken, that sounds like the other side of the political aisle and their "you're with us or against us" mentality.

A few things about McKinney, I did work in the mid-90s in the Dem party in the state, and she was not looked upon in glowing terms by many. McKinney has always come off as an egomaniac. She's always crying race in her heavily African-American district (areas including Decatur and Stone Mountain), which is changing in ways demographically as a greater gay and lesbian population moves into Decatur. I'll never forget the day about six or seven years ago that we were in her district and drove by CYNTHIA MCKKINEY BLVD. Maybe she should have seen to it that the money spent to rename the street (including the cost of signs and so forth) could have gone to a good cause that she champions. Lastly, I never see much of any results for her district. Ms. McKinney seems to always be all about herself. She might champion good issues, but the messenger could use to be changed.

What's all this garbage about Majette on here? She was a solid dem vote just as rinsd posted.

There are some people on here who dismiss you as a Freeper if you don't tow the line 100%.

So much for being open-minded. :puke:

I called Majette a closet republican, and I stick by that. There is something seriously wrong with anyone who would vote for Alan Keyes or support replacing progressive income taxes with regressive national sales tax. She went up against a "fellow" democrat who was doing an excellent job for her district, and who was the ONLY one shining the light of truth on Bushco back when every other democrat in congress was cowering under their desks with their tails between their legs.

You may have legitimate gripes with the way McKinney does business, and should make them known to her. Do you think it was her idea to re-name the street? SOmehow I doubt it. That's a hell of a flimsy reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and this thread is a pretty flimsy excuse to call DU "freeper-lite".


Even if Majette HAD been a real democrat, I would have condemned her for going up against McKinney, because it totally served the interests of the GOP.

So, a Dem can't challenge a Dem for a primary fight? Many of us DON'T think that she was doing a great job for her distict. Don't you get that? It's subjective. You said she's done a great job for her district, well many didn't and still don't believe so. Like I posted, Ms. McKinney didn't seem to bring back much of anything to the district.

As for the comment about the street name, that's part of my argument about her. She's an egomaniac interested in being miss important in her little corner of the world. You sure as heck bet I believe that she knew and for all we know, had people who helped get the blvd. renamed for her. That's the point.

As for the freeper-lite comment, you've just acted like them once again. Countless times I've read how the GOP is just a spin machine, in lock-step with one another, and they never voice opposition to one another (i.e. challenge one another). Why doesn't some moderate take on that right winger, those type of comments. Well, I guess no other person should take on Cynthia McKinney because she's a Democrat. Sure.

For being open minded around here, I sure wonder a lot about that. I guess I'll keep my Cynthia McKinney comments to myself because that would be attacking our own and that isn't right. Please.

Let me guess, too, you don't live anywhere near here and know so much about her and her district? True?

Hadn't heard that particular one before.

Tell us, in what congressional district do you live?

And there's only one thing necessary to say about Denise Majette - he mentor was Zell Miller. Nuf said - end of conversation. We all know how that one turned out.

Denise Majette never bothered to check her Senate aspirations with anyone BUT Zell Miller. Including the Georgia Democratic party.

Cynthia McKinney has faught the bush/neocon rip-off machine, and the republican corruption with corporations from the git-go. You working AGAINST such a staunch supporter of taxpayers is as low as it gets.

You should have done more research into who created that "Hamas" bullshit.

:kick::kick::kick:

And I stand by my opposition to Barbara Lee (for her vote on 9/14) even though I haven't done anything in the opposition campaign. Sorry, I'm not a lockstep Democratic voter. I stand with the anti-Iraq-war side, but not against fighting the real war on terror.

And I've done the research. Check the Federal Election Commission records against some of these peoples' "employers." For instance, the IAP is a good place to start.

EDIT: Some of what she's done may be good, I'll give you that. But when stacked up to these other things, I will oppose her being in Congress. I think someone without these ties to questionable individuals and organizations can also fight the * people, don't you? Or is McKinney the only one capable?

"I stand with the anti-Iraq-war side, but not against fighting the real war on terror."

Kinda sounds like a freeper that calls in to Randi Rhodes and starts out with, 'I'm a Democrat, but...', then goes on for another fifteen minutes using nothing but right-wing talking points to make their point.

Very suspicious!!!

:shrug:

If you can't debate the issues, just call me a Freeper or imply that I am one. Great thinking there.

I'll break it down for you. There are TWO issues in this subthread.

One: The Iraq War
Two: The REAL war on terror (of which Iraq is not a part, despite what the * supporters say)

I am for the REAL war on terror.

I oppose the Iraq war.

You know, people can be for one and not the other, right?

Happy to clear that up for you!

According to the Bush Criminal Empire's official story, there were 15 Saudi Arabians, a couple of Yemeni's and an Egyptian or two who allegedly hijacked some planes with box cutters.

Yet the Fraudministration has produced no evidence as to how they arrived at those conclusions, despite promises that they would release said evidence soon after the attacks on 9-11-01. And false confessions from a short fat actor who didn't at all resemble Osama Bin Laden don't count as evidence.

Since then, the BCE has attacked Afghanistan and Iraq while Bin Laden, and his Egyptian henchman reportedly hide out in Pakistan and the PNAC'ers openly masturbate over their wet dreams of attacking Iran and Syria.

So tell me, what exactly is the "war on terror" and who are we allegedly fighting?

if you are MIHOP/LIHOP, then we'll disagree from the start.

If, however, you believe that we were attacked by al Qaueda on 9/11, then I'll tell you that (a) we have to respond to it in order to protect ourselves and prevent further attack, and (b) I support dismantling that terrorist network through RARE invasion (Afghanistan) but mostly international cooperation in law enforcement operations and financial disruption.

This does not include the war on Iraq, which I oppose 100%. That invasion and subsequent occupation has been a distraction from what I call the "real" war on terror, as described above.

What is the basis for your "belief" that McKinney is taking money from Hamas?

Nice try, though.

If you want to know why I believe what I believe, feel free to take a look around at the posts in this thread.

international money laundering.

She was clearly on top of the issue and not about to be intimidated by anyone.

No wonder the establishment types tried to derail her political career--she knows where the bodies are buried and isn't afraid to say it.

The one in which, among other topics, The Carlyle Group is discussed?

If I ever grow up, I want to be like Cynthia.

I :loveya: her.

Speaks the truth boldly. Not concerned with image or strategizing just states the reality of how politics works on the ground. Need more of her and less of the obfuscators.

and has survived all the spurious smears, including some here.

:thumbsup:

huge smear campaign against her. Lots of integrity and a good heart.

occupationS (there is more than one, you know)in the Middle East and said NO!

I think she out does even Barbara Lee.

:thumbsup:

amoung politicians, infact she is such a free thinker she is dangerous to the neocons.

I hope she stays out of canoes, and small airplanes. The repukes are good at making small airplanes look like 'freak weather accidents'.

I'd like to see and hear more about all her great work here at DU.

:hi:

You've all heard the damning testimony presented before that commission?

Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344
Indira Singh testimony and interviews
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=344x4

Testimony before the 9-11 Citizens Commission headed by Cynthia McKinney
http://911busters.com/911-Commission.html (audio and video)
- Indira Singh Sibel's Letter (testimony starts at about 10min.)
- Indira Singh and Ruppert Questions and Answers
http://www.justicefor911.org/September-Hearings.doc (transcript)

I love watching her grill politicians and other people about stuff. I remember watching her gril Rummy. A little black lady from the deep south grilling a big macho wannabe with 9/11. :D