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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:13 AM
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Text-messaging driver accused of hitting, killing cyclist
Text-messaging driver accused of hitting cyclist

Victim died 2 days after accident; 17-year-old charged with
misdemeanor

Dec. 2, 2005

HIGHLANDS RANCH, Colo. - A teenage driver accused of text messaging
behind the wheel and hitting a cyclist was charged with a misdemeanor,authorities said.

The 17-year-old was charged with careless driving causing death,
according to the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office. The charge carries a maximum sentence of one year in prison.

The victim, Jim R. Price, 63, was riding his bicycle Nov. 23 when he
was hit by the teen’s car, said Lt. Alan Stanton, a spokesman for the
sheriff’s office. Price died two days after the accident.

The teen has not been identified because he is a minor. Authorities
said he lost control of the car because he was sending text messages
on a cell phone. He was issued a summons and ordered to appear in
court, authorities said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295430/
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:13 AM
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1. Sounds appropriate.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:14 AM
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2. I think it should be more than a year....
What a thoughtless little asshole this kid is!
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:21 AM
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5. Unfortunately, he probably comes from a connected family with $$$
Therefore he will slide past this like a buttered pig.

Too bad for the man he mowed down, though.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:32 AM
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11. Not necessarily...it's more about statistics than money.
Edited on Sat Dec-03-05 12:45 AM by MercutioATC
See my post below...
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:31 AM
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9. Yes, but that's what the law calls for...it's a misdemeanor.
42-4-1402. Careless driving - penalty.
Statute text
(1) Any person who drives any motor vehicle, bicycle, or motorized bicycle in a careless and imprudent manner, without due regard for the width, grade, curves, corners, traffic, and use of the streets and highways and all other attendant circumstances, is guilty of careless driving. A person convicted of careless driving of a bicycle or motorized bicycle shall not be subject to the provisions of section 42-2-127.

(2) Any person who violates any provision of this section commits a class 2 misdemeanor traffic offense, but, if the person's actions are the proximate cause of bodily injury or death to another, such person commits a class 1 misdemeanor traffic offense.

They could possibly have charged him with:

18-3-106. Vehicular homicide.
Statute text
(1) (a) If a person operates or drives a motor vehicle in a reckless manner, and such conduct is the proximate cause of the death of another, such person commits vehicular homicide.

(c) Vehicular homicide, in violation of paragraph (a) of this subsection (1), is a class 4 felony.


The difference is in the manner in which the vehicle is being operated. "Careless" is an easier standard to prove than "negligent". Prosecutors usually want to keep their conviction count up so they're re-elected.


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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:32 AM
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10.  I agree !
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:19 AM
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4. How's it approriate for this man to die because this kid used a cellphone?
Makes no sense to me.

He should be charged with felony manslaughter, IMO.

Old enough to drive, old enough to go to prison.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:45 AM
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13. The CHARGE is appropriate, not the event.
Here's the Colorado statute for manslaughter:

18-3-104. Manslaughter.
Statute text
(1) A person commits the crime of manslaughter if:

(a) Such person recklessly causes the death of another person; or

(b) Such person intentionally causes or aids another person to commit suicide.

(c) (Deleted by amendment, L. 96, p. 1844, § 13, effective July 1, 1996.)

(2) Manslaughter is a class 4 felony.


Again, it's a matter of reckless vs. careless. Careless is an easier standard to prove and most Prosecutors want to keep their conviction rates up.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:14 AM
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3. Hmmm, too bad he wasn't in Singapore
:evilgrin:
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:25 AM
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7. Why? He wasn't chewing gum for god's sake!
:9
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:23 AM
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6. The driving age should be raised to 21.
Seriously. We won't let them have a beer, but they can get behind the wheel of a 2 ton killing machine, even with their underdeveloped judgment centers?

I think permits to drive with a parent at age 18, then licenses at 21 would help tremendously. I had several accidents before I turned 21, and haven't even gotten a ticket since. And the experiences of an awful lot of my friends mirror mine.
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:30 AM
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8. US drivers tests should be much harder, like they are in Europe...
Applying and being approved for a DL here in the US is way too easy, IMO.

That doesnt excuse text messaging while driving, however.

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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:39 AM
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12. they are trying to ban cell phones
in cars for minors in WI. i say not enough.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:50 AM
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14. As a cyclist, it seems to me the message here
is that if you are on the road, you are at your own risk. Drivers do not have the responsibility to operate their vehicles in a way that is safe for you. Simple as that.

Yes, I have read the posts above concerning 'careless' versus 'reckless.' But the cyclist is dead because a driver was not paying attention, and the driver will not pay a commensurate price.

Given the physical realities of cars versus bikes, I try to ride off-road whenever possible. But when I'm on the road I don't assume that drivers will be courteous, intelligent, or even have their eyes open.
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