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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:17 PM
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Is Fox News taking this 'War on Christmas' thing too far?
Just look at their last segment.

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:21 PM
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1. Looking for a culture war!
They're afraid if the war in Iraq ends too soonfor them, they won'thave anything to harp about. Gotta get people all stressed out about being "persecuted" as Christians in the US.

Funny pic!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:23 PM
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2. Yet more lies from Fox, everybody knows Scrooge is a Republican
:evilgrin:

All that talk about throwing folks in workhouses and such. He sure ain't a liberal. :)
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:26 PM
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4. Scrooge is the textbook definition of a Republican bastard!
The neocons would run him in 2008 if he actually existed.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:25 PM
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3. Faux Nooz started this flap
They profess to be on the "Christmas" side, but they're the ones secretely trying to undermine Christianity and replace it with the Cult of Mammon.
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:31 PM
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5. I'm ready to write Fox and tell them how as a liberal I support
Christmas. And saying all the Merry Christmas they want. And I also support Hanukah, Kwaanza, Ramadan, Eid, Festivus, Solstice, Saturnalia and all other Winter Solstice based holidays. Because a part of the true celebration of diversity is respecting the right of everyone to his own religion and his own celebration of that religion's holidays and holy days in his or her own way.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:31 PM
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6. NIce photoshop. It's hilarious.
Seriously they are taking it too far.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:33 PM
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7. You know what I want?
The next time some religious nutcase claims that Christians are being persecuted in America, I want that person to have his door kicked in during the middle of the night. I want him to be dragged off to an undisclosed location by para-military forces. Then I want him beaten and sodomized within an inch of his life. I want his wife raped while his children are forced to look on, and then I want the children executed on the spot while his wife looks on.

Now THAT'S persecution, you dumb fuckers.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:48 PM
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12. Very Good Point.
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:27 PM
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17. That's just a little
over the top, doncha think?
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:39 AM
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22. Nope. It's called "making a point". n/t
n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:03 AM
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21. Damn, I want that for them also!
See, it really is the season where we think of others and not ourselves
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:35 PM
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8. I've heard a lot of noise from them and others in recent weeks
crying about how "they're taking Christ out of Christmas".

What I haven't heard from is this perceived enemy of religion.
I haven't seen protests, boycotts, or threats directed toward those who display religious themes this year.

But if a retailer or community dares to offer an all inclusive or non religious display......THAT I hear about.

Fake war for Christmas by fake Christians.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:39 PM
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9. A sign of desperation.
If events on the national and international scene were going their way, I don't think this is what we'd be seeing on Fox.
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Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:39 PM
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10. It's all about keeping the people divided.
When people feel like it's us against them, they tend to stick together in groups. It is easier to get groups to vote your way if you make it look like the differences between people is greater then the similarities.
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:43 PM
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11. The fact that "war" and "christ" are at the forefront -- YES
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:57 PM
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13. Didn't they pull this last year too?
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 03:04 PM
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14. Someday we'll live in a country where Christians aren't persecuted...
Someday they will be able to openly celebrate their religion, say, in churches and the like.
They'll be able to wear religious icons.
They may even be able to read the Bible in the privacy of their own homes, without fear that the government will break down their doors and haul them off to re-education camps.

And maybe, just maybe, in some bright day in the future, we may even have Christian politicans elected to office. One may even become president someday!

But that will never happen as long as Christians are persecutued in this country.

:sarcasm:
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 03:54 PM
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15. Shortage of new blonde co-ed disappearances
it's not shark season, and their favorite war has lost support.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:39 PM
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18. OK, Criminal, you win n/t
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 03:59 PM
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16. No because Gibson has to sell a book too, like all the rest of the
asshole fox show hosts. Maybe he's sharing the profits from his book with all of fox news for helping him make an issue that doesn't exist.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:31 PM
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19. Come December 26th...
This non-issue will become even a "bigger" non-issue, quickly vaporizing just as suddenly as it appeared out of thin air. Makes one wonder why the likes of Jerry Falwell and Fox News would want to raise a huge fuss promoting a culture war topic with such a limited shelf life!
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frazzledmom Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:44 AM
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24. For Falwell it's the money..
He's got this Friend Or Foe Christmas campaign going.
http://www.lc.org/misc/friend_or_foe.htm
Give us money so we can save Christmas.. Bwahahahaha :rofl:
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:58 PM
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20. It's nothing new..
.. they do this every year. 'Tis the season!
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:41 AM
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23. WHATever would give you THAT idea???
:sarcasm:
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:47 AM
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25. In 1959 they blamed the Communists
In 1959, the recently formed John Birch Society issued an urgent alert: Christmas was under attack. In a JBS pamphlet titled "There Goes Christmas?!" a writer named Hubert Kregeloh warned, "One of the techniques now being applied by the Reds to weaken the pillar of religion in our country is the drive to take Christ out of Christmas -- to denude the event of its religious meaning." The central front in this perfidious assault was American department stores, where the "Godless UN" was scheming to replace religious decorations with internationalist celebrations of universal brotherhood.

"The UN fanatics launched their assault on Christmas in 1958, but too late to get very far before the holy day was at hand," the pamphlet explained. "They are already busy, however, at this very moment, on efforts to poison the 1959 Christmas season with their high-pressure propaganda. What they now want to put over on the American people is simply this: Department stores throughout the country are to utilize UN symbols and emblems as Christmas decorations."

According to the JBS, this assault on yuletide iconography was "part of a much broader plan, not only to promote the UN, but to destroy all religious beliefs and customs." The pamphlet called on all Americans to fight back by informing department stores that those with improper ornamentation wouldn't be getting their business.

At the time, the campaign to save Christmas was not widely treated as a matter of great national import. The John Birch Society was generally regarded as a crank, far-right outfit whose paranoid conspiracy theories (it believed fluoridated water was part of an evil communist plot to poison America's brains) put it outside the pale of reasonable discourse. Staffers on the ultra-right 1964 Barry Goldwater campaign tried to prevent Birchers from volunteering because they carried the taint of extremism. The John Birch Society didn't have access to a major television network. But a lot has changed since then.

...

Spinning a few p.c. episodes into a gigantic, malevolent conspiracy

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/21/christmas/
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:53 AM
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26. They have nothing of substance to talk about.
So they invent liberal wars on Christianity. Losers.
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