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Locut0s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:32 AM
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Let's face it. While I'm sure Bush doesn't "want" another 9/11...
Let's face it. While I'm sure Bush doesn't "want" another 9/11 the truth is that nothing would be better for his poll numbers than another terrorist attach and the subsequent "rally behind the president" mentality that would follow. For those wondering why nothing is being done security wise maybe it's because those in power aren't in a big hurry to see terrorism go away, after all it's just about the only thing keeping the government afloat at this point.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:34 AM
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1. You're saying what everyone is thinking
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 12:34 AM by Ignacio Upton
....now shut up before you're taken to Gitmo.:sarcasm:
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:34 AM
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2. If another attack happened, here's how I see the debate.
Bushies: "We must stay the course. Support the troops. Iraq is a front on the war on terror."

Rational people: "But you said we were safer. We were just attacked again!"

Bushies: "It's the liberals' fault."

That's how they've been arguing for years now...
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:35 AM
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3. Junior would slit Killer Bab's throat for another 9/11...yes he would
Junior's GAGGING for another terrorist attack...so don't think he isn't...so is Cheney, Rove, Rummy and the rest of the psychos.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:35 AM
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4. Not now...
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 12:36 AM by tinrobot
It's too late. An attack will hang around his neck heavier than Katrina, particularly if Osama claims responsibility.

He promised to protect us after 9/11. Another attack is final proof of his incompetence.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:35 AM
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5. W's theme has been he's keeping America safe while
battling terrorists overseas. Most of us know it's a bunch of B.S.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:42 AM
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6. I beg to differ
The last thing this Admin needs is another 9/11. All of the basis for the war in Iraq, the erosion of our civil liberties, torture, and trust of the Bush Leadership go right out the window.
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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:58 AM
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10. You overestimate the intelligence ...

You overestimate the intelligence of the average Faux News viewer. Bush dropped the ball on the last terrorist attack. He did nothing and his administration was criminally negligent in their conduct of national security via the FBI and their crippling of our intelligence agencies (by chasing out the queers).

What makes you think that the SAME media will criticize Bush this time while last time they rallied to him and made him look like a hero?? (when in reality he was hiding in a classroom).

No I don't think that Americans have gotten the point of the buzzbomb attacks yet.

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:25 AM
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14. The average Fox News viewer is already supporting Bush.
And there aren't very many of them. I've no doubt that Bush's hardcore base would support him even if he started sacrifing virgins on Must See TV.

Sane people would be appalled by another terrorist attack. It'd only point out the incompetence and stupidity of the Bush Administration once again. It'd be another Katrina.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:52 AM
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7. no
then they wouldn't be able to say he has kept us safe
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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:55 AM
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8. Bush's war is in SERIOUS jeapordy ...

The long term prospects for the long term occupation of Iraq (which was the original point) is in jeapordy. The country is turning agaist the Iraq war in a serious way.

Bush CANNOT go into the '06 election with all this hanging on him as well as the Plame investigation and the handful of congressional investigations.

I fear that Bush will "pull the goalie" once again. No doubt this time it will be a Syrian passport found on top of a pile of rubble (that does not contain a black box).

This would give allow him to make the position that he "must expand the war". Yes, Syria would be a terrorist state and we must invade it. And in order to do so, we will need a draft. Bush wouldn't want it, but it's necessary to protect the safety of the Motherland, so there you go.

And of course, any Democrat who disagreed would once again be labeled traitorous.

Isn't it amazing that Bush's poll numbers have tanked about the same time in BOTH of his presidencies. Bush is down even LOWER this time. Does that mean the next attack will be even bigger.

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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:00 AM
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yep but the Syrian passport will be found in Iraq
not in New York
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:56 AM
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9. I don't think it's likely
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 12:57 AM by tocqueville
9/11 was the tragic result of utter incompetence probably in relation to internal complicities. It cannot be redone that way.

I don't think that Al Quaeda has the capacity. If you lok at what they done those past 4 years it's mostly bombings in soft countries (where it's easier to infiltrate) like Indonesia, Jordan etc...

The two European attacks weren't on the level of 9/11, probably orchestrated by "franchised" groups and the latest relatively amateurish. In both cases the suspects were promptly arrested.

Al Quaeda best success is Iraq. But it was unintended.

If they strike again, it will be like the London bombings, and maybe enough to recreate an atmosphere of terror. But what I wonder is why they haven't already done it - if they were able to do it.

Or are they planning again something "big" ???? bigger than 9/11 ?
Can they really do it ? From a cave in Pakistan ?

They are indirectly tying "half" the American Army in an Arabic Country, hoping to spread the conflict to the whole region. For them it must be far more interesting than hitting the USA.

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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:00 AM
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11. Depends. If it brought the war home, it might not be good for * but he
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 01:01 AM by Beam Me Up
is small potatoes anyway. Who cares about him? It's the underlying national security state apparatus that arranges these things and if they decide what is in their best interest is, say, for a nuclear first strike against the US to justify nuclear retaliation against the 'enemy' of their choosing, don't think for one second they won't go for it.

Bush has nothing to say about it.

The nation would be under attack. We would be in a national emergency, a state of war would be declared, and all the powers granted to the government under those circumstances.

It would be madness. It would shake our world to its foundation. It would make Katrina look like a picnic.

Just what PNAC is hoping for.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:19 AM
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12. Black x's
Maybe we should mark all their homes and offices with huge black X's so they wont miss them
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:21 AM
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13. Another big terrorist attack would destroy Bush.
It'd be like another Katrina. People wouldn't rally around the Bush Administration again- not when the majority of the population believes Bush lied us into a war. No way.

They'd be demanding impeachment.
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geekgirl72 Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:13 AM
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15. I'm a cynic
I wish I had your optimism, but I don't. There was no way for the administration to hide from Katrina, but they could pull out their diversion tactics for a terrorist attack.. and although many people wouldn't be fooled by them, a whole lot would. :|
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:23 AM
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16. I don't know about that.
Neither you nor I nor anybody really knows what Bushler "wants." He might actually be praying right at this very moment for a small nuclear attack (dirty bomb or otherwise) against a US city in order to justify the complete extermination of all humans in the MIddle East.

NOBODY knows what is going on inside his tiny brain but him.

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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:35 AM
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17. I'm not too sure of that.
Repugs made a great deal of hay in 2004 that they could keep us safe. Because of Katrina the country already knows that this is not true. The Repugs also said we're fighting them in Iraq so we don't have to fight them here. Another attack on US soil will just show the lie in that statement.

ChimpCo is in a bit of tight spot here. Things are going bad in Iraq. There's been nothing but bad news for him since springtime. Conditions are not likely to improve. More indictments are likely from more than just Fitzgerald. The war is effectively lost, and everybody knows it. Even top military leaders are advising an Iraq exit.

Nothing's going their way. If another attack happens, it will not go well for the Repugs.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:51 AM
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18. ghastly but true...
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