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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:39 AM
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Did Big Oil participate in planning invasion of Iraq?
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/dec2005/oil-d05.shtml

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...So why have Cheney and the White House for so long refused to release documentation of the meetings? And why would the oil executives care if it were revealed they were present at task force meetings—so much so that they provided apparently false testimony before Congress on the matter?

Only the release of the documents will fully resolve these questions. But one possible explanation relates directly to the immediate source of the crisis that threatens to consume the Bush administration: the war in Iraq.

In fact, the Bush administration’s energy policy was not based only on the dismantling of corporate regulations and the loosening of restrictions on oil exploration in the United States. It had an even more important foreign component: the plan to invade and colonize Iraq, and then privatize and expropriate its enormous oil wealth for the direct benefit of American oil concerns and US capitalism as a whole.

It has been long-since established that in 2001, Cheney’s task force discussed Iraq’s oil. In 2003, Judicial Watch gained access to Commerce Department papers that had been produced by the task force. Found among the documents, according to a July 18, 2003, Associated Press report, were “a detailed map of Iraq’s oil fields, terminals and pipelines as well as a list entitled ‘Foreign Suitors of Iraqi Oilfield Contracts.’ ” Among the specifically listed “foreign suitors” were Russian and French concerns.

It is more than plausible that during White House meetings, oil executives discussed such a “hypothetical” invasion of the defenseless country. The oil companies stood to benefit enormously, and there is no reason to believe that these powerful and well-connected men were unaware that the Bush administration and its coterie of neo-liberal strategists had placed the invasion of Iraq as a top priority. Indeed, the plan to invade Iraq was well known and publicly discussed among the Washington elite for years.

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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:46 AM
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1. I'm wondering if the key to the puzzle would be an exposed link between
Big Oil and PNAC.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:52 AM
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2. I would speculate that Bu$h and Cheney are the link between
PNAC and Big Oil.
Much of the bu$h regime are listed on the PNAC documentation. and bu$h and Cheney are both oil monkeys.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:55 AM
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3. Cheney Energy Task Force Refresher
Excerpt from PNAC 101 - The Rise of the Neocons

DECEMBER 2000 - Cheney secretly assembled an advisory panel of oil and gas executives from Enron, Dynergy, Shell Oil, Chevron/Texaco and British Petroleum under the direction of James Baker (former Secretary of State under George Bush Sr.) to help shape our national energy policy and justify the PNAC's anticipated war with Iraq.

Contributing substantially to the task force discussions and recommendations was a shadowy group of unidentified observers who still remain unknown. Sheikh Saud Al Nasser Al Sabah, the former Kuwaiti oil minister, also made a contribution to the group's final report which was funded through Khalid Al-Turki (a Saudi Arabian oil and gas enterprise) and the Arthur Ross Foundation (a non-profit organization that - on the surface - appears to be a supporter of the Arts.)

http://www.yuricareport.com/PoliticalAnalysis/FraudinWhiteHouse.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/15/AR2005111501842.html

MARCH 2001 - Cheney closely guarded the details surrounding his energy task force but documents released through the Freedom of Information Act reveal a map of Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, refineries and terminals, as well as 2 charts detailing Iraqi oil and gas projects, and “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/071703.c_.shtml

As one internet poster pointed out:

"The Iraq map is not a map, it's a plan

"There are several areas marked 'earmarked for production sharing' (look at the map
legend), which means privatized oil fields. Iraq did not have privatized oil fields and
production sharing agreements before the US took it over.

"There are also parcels marked on the Iraq oil field and exploration map (numbered
'Block 1' through '9'). Iraq did not have an active, privatized oil exploration program
going on before it was conquered by the US.

"If you read the footnotes and entire contents of the other documents, there is a heavy
emphasis on business concerns, such as contracts and vendors over items one might
think would be more important in a government discussion, such as capacity, long term
reserves, etc...

"One footnote (in UAEOilProj.pdf) even contains investment advice for the participants
at the meeting, suggesting opportunities in downstream projects, such as power
desalination and pipeline projects.


"These are not 'just maps'. Read them."

It can be argued that the spoils of war were being doled out two years before Iraq once again became a household word. Perhaps this explains why Cheney worked so hard and so long to keep this information suppressed until Iraq was under U.S. military control...by then it would be too late for the public to object to the invasion.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:06 PM
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22. Don't forget also
that the guy who is now Iraq's PM was involved with big oil. Moore pointed this out in his film.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:56 AM
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4. Want proof?
STRATEGIC ENERGY POLICY CHALLENGES
FOR THE 21ST CENTURY

Report of an Independent Task Force
Sponsored by the
James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy of Rice University
and the
Council on Foreign Relations


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Review policies toward Iraq with the aim to lowering anti-Americanism in the Middle East and elsewhere, and set the groundwork to eventually ease Iraqi oil-field investment restrictions. Iraq remains a destabilizing influence to U.S. allies in the Middle East, as well as to regional and global order, and to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East. Saddam Hussein has also demonstrated a willingness to threaten to use the oil weapon and to use his own export program to manipulate oil markets. This would display his personal power, enhance his image as a "Pan Arab" leader supporting the Palestinians against Israel, and pressure others for a lifting of economic sanctions against his regime.

The United States should conduct an immediate policy review toward Iraq, including military, energy, economic, and political/diplomatic assessments. The United States should then develop an integrated strategy with key allies in Europe and Asia and with key countries in the Middle East to restate the goals with respect to Iraqi policy and to restore a cohesive coalition of key allies. Goals should be designed in a realistic fashion, and they should be clearly and consistently stated and defended to revive U.S. credibility on this issue. Actions and policies to promote these goals should endeavor to enhance the well-being of the Iraqi people. Sanctions that are not effective should be phased out and replaced with highly focused and enforced sanctions that target the regime’s ability to maintain and acquire weapons of mass destruction. A new plan of action should be developed to use diplomatic and other means to support U.N. Security Council efforts to build a strong arms-control regime to stem the flow of arms and controlled substances into Iraq. Policy should rebuild coalition cooperation on this issue, while emphasizing the common interest in security. This issue of arms sales to Iraq should be brought near the top of the agenda for dialogue with China and Russia.

Once an arms-control program is in place, the United States could consider reducing restrictions on oil investments inside Iraq. Like it or not, Iraqi reserves represent a major asset that can quickly add capacity to world oil markets and inject a more competitive tenor to oil trade. However, such a policy will be quite costly as this trade-off will encourage Saddam Hussein to boast of his "victory" against the United States, fuel his ambitions, and potentially strengthen his regime. Once so encouraged and if his access to oil revenues were to be increased by adjustments in oil sanctions, Saddam Hussein could be a greater security threat to U.S. allies in the region if weapons of mass destruction (WMD) sanctions, weapons regimes, and the coalition against him are not strengthened. Still, the maintenance of continued oil sanctions is becoming increasingly difficult to implement. Moreover, Saddam Hussein has many means of gaining revenues, and the sanctions regime helps perpetuate his lock on the country’s economy.

Another problem with easing restrictions on the Iraqi oil industry to allow greater investment is that GCC allies of the United States will not like to see Iraq gain larger market share in international oil markets. In fact, even Russia could lose from having sanctions eased on Iraq, because Russian companies now benefit from exclusive contracts and Iraqi export capacity is restrained, supporting the price of oil and raising the value of Russian oil exports. If sanctions covering Iraq’s oil sector were eased and Iraq benefited from infrastructure improvements, Russia might lose its competitive position inside Iraq, and also oil prices might fall over time, hurting the Russian economy. These issues will have to be discussed in bilateral exchanges.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020228042752/http://bakerinstitute.org/Pubs/workingpapers/cfrbipp_energy/energytf.htm


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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:22 AM
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5. More info on Baker Report and how it all ties together
APRIL 2001 - "Sanctions against oil-producing countries have discouraged oil resource investment in a number of key oil provinces, including Iraq, Iran, and Libya...the maintenance of continued oil sanctions is becoming increasingly difficult to implement." So said the Baker oil-interest advisory group in their report "Strategic Energy Policy Challenges for the 21st Century".

Strikingly similar in context and tone to the PNAC's "Rebuilding America’s Defenses" policy paper, the Baker report was noteworthy in several other ways:

  • The report urgently pointed to California's power woes as a sign of an impending national energy crisis of catastrophic proportions.



  • "Americans face long-term situations such as frequent sporadic shortages of energy,
    energy price volatility, and higher energy prices....."

    "As the 21st century opens, the energy sector is in critical condition. A crisis could
    erupt at any time..."

    "Electricity outages already have our most populous state in a vice and are
    threatening to spread from California to other parts of the country."

    "Price spikes and supply shortages could become widespread recurring events
    making the United States appear more similar to a poor developing country."


  • It recommended an energy security policy with "near-term actions" to diversify "energy supply resources" as a viable solution to prevent a crisis.


  • "National solutions alone cannot work."

    "The United States must stake out new paths...and reassess the role of energy in
    American foreign policy"


  • The report also considered Saddam to be a trouble-maker.



  • "Iraq has been engaged in a clever public relations campaign to...stir up
    anti-American sentiment inside and outside the Middle East.

    "Iraq remains a destabilizing influence to U.S. allies in the Middle East, as
    well as to regional and global order, and to the flow of oil to international
    markets from the Middle East.


  • It complained that "Iraq has effectively become a swing producer" because Saddam turned the spigots to his oil fields on and off at his whim and he threatened to use his own export program to manipulate oil markets



  • "The United States should develop an integrated strategy ..... to restate
    the goals with respect to Iraqi policy.....

    "Iraqi reserves represent a major asset" but "Saddam Hussein could be
    a greater security threat to U.S. allies in the region if weapons of mass
    destruction (WMD) sanctions, weapons regimes, and the coalition against
    him are not strengthened"

    "Once an arms-control program is in place, the United States could
    consider reducing restrictions on oil investments inside Iraq."


    According to the Baker report, the U.S. national energy security was in the hands of an unruly and unpredictable adversary that jeopardized U.S. and PNAC financial and political interests. It is believed that the Bush Cabinet agreed to a military takeover of Iraq at this time.

    MAY 2001 - The official National Energy Policy Report was finally released for public review but only after someone in the White House changed the final draft without the knowledge of the inter-agency government workgroup who drafted it - specifically, the Departments of Energy, Interior, Commerce, Treasury, and State as well as representatives from the Environmental Protection Agency and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA.)

    What ultimately became the official White House National Energy Policy Report was in reality a repackaged version of the Baker "Strategic Energy Policy Challenges for the 21st Century" report which in turn was just an eerie echo of the PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" Mideast agenda. Essentially, a bait and switch had occured, the PNAC's policy and the Bush Administration's policy had magically merged to become one and the same, but nobody knew whodunit (although Cheney is a likely suspect.)

    Comparing the various position papers used in the sleight-of-hand shuffle, it's notable that the additions and revisions made to the final draft of the National Energy Policy Report included seventeen of Enron's energy recommendations, wildly exaggerated and oft-repeated claims of a national energy "crisis" based solely on California's energy issues and numerous urgings that energy "security" become a priority of U.S. trade and foreign policy. But there was one final act of misdirection yet to come...the official White House Energy Report didn't mention either Saddam or Iraq when both the other policy papers did....because the public wasn't supposed to know that a plan for a Mideast takeover existed and that war was imminent.

    http://www.yuricareport.com/PoliticalAnalysis/FraudinWhiteHouse.htm

    Later investigations revealed that Enron - with Cheney's knowledge and possibly at his direction - had intentionally manipulated the California energy market and created a manufactured "crisis" by exploiting regulatory rules that existed only in that State. The looming national energy "crisis" Cheney described at length in his White House National Energy Policy Report never really existed but it provided the groundwork to coalesce the military against Saddam to capture his kingdom for the PNAC.
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    BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:23 AM
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    6. LMFAO!
    For many decades now, the United States has been without an energy policy. Now, the consequences of not having an energy policy that can satisfy our energy requirements on a sustainable basis have revealed themselves in California.

    New energy policy: lock up the corporate criminals!
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    mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 09:08 AM
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    7. I imagine they know more than
    just that. They most likely know the strategy and also about Iran's oil Bourse.
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    bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 09:19 AM
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    8. clearly, and especially in the sense that they fully intended...
    the u.s. armed forces to be providing them protection services for pennies on the dollar. having a handy little strike force of highly paid mercenaries is not enough to protect their still unrevealed long term interests. that takes american blood & treasure.
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    wixomblues Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 09:30 AM
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    9. How could they find time?
    I'm sure they were busy counting their money.
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    SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 09:37 AM
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    11. If they weren't then, they certainly are now. But it's not about oil.
    :eyes: O.I.L Operation Iraqi Liberation. Wasn't bushco thinking of using this to name their invasion of Iraq? Too obvious, I guess.
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    Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 09:32 AM
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    10. Yes. nt
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    tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:27 PM
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    15. Of course they did.
    Corporations have been in complete charge of our nation since Bu$h was inaugurated. To think oil companies had no part in starting the Iraq war is naivete.

    Many simply have not grasped the true corruption of the Bu$h cabal. The welfare of the American People is not a priority for the corporate cabal.
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    gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 09:41 AM
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    12. It's a provocative question
    One that could be resolved if the Vice President of the United States would only let his employers, the American people, know what he's been doing on their time with their dime. Too bad the media are preoccupied with wondering about Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie to pay much attention to matters like this. But really, which issue affects you personally? Brad and Angelina, of course!
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    Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 10:42 AM
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    13. without reading anything other than the headline...YES.
    Cheney's task force was attended by big oil and they even had map drawn up to divide the spoils....

    (I'm sure others have already mentioned this)

    but the biggest proof you have is that they requested not to have to be sworn in when talking before congress.

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    Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 11:35 AM
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    14. Does Randy Cunningham jerk off?
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    Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:37 PM
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    16. Of course......the minutes of those meetings are damaging to Cheney,
    it had to get Scalia onboard to keep them secret. If the American people were to understand that this was always about stealing Iraq's oil and not WMD/Saddam "Bad"/Democracy/Terror Flypaper, we could make serious progress towards impeaching everyone connected with this administration.

    Starting a war to steal another country's resources is a war crime.
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    EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:26 PM
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    18. Good thing he hunts with Scaliar of SCOTUS n/t
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    mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:11 PM
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    17. I don't like to see links to the WSWS. They may be right, and I
    personally am sympathetic to a lot of the critique of the so-called "free market" system a socialist framework provides, a socialist web site has zero credibility with most Americans.

    Even when they're right, most Americans are going to dismiss the source out of hand.
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    Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 09:24 AM
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    25. Maybe most Americans need to learn not to dismiss credible
    sources out of hand, especially since, much to their detriment, they've been taught to embrace incredible sources.
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    mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:53 PM
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    26. Somebody linked to them the other day. Said that my congressman
    had been named by the Assoc. Press as a target in the Abramoff scandal.

    I searched Lexis Nexis, google, and all the rest. AP had nothing on it.

    To be credible, you have to write things that are verifiable.
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    Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:37 PM
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    27. Hard to verify what you're claiming
    since you specified neither the article nor the representative in question. Even if you're correct, you're pointing out a single mistake. That's hardly sufficient to paint the WSWS as lacking in credibility. Using your logic, no one should post to the NY Times or the Washington Post or any other corporate sponsored media outlet.
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    mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:58 PM
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    28. Really?
    You think the World Socialist Workers Website has just as much credibility as the New York Times or the Washington Post and deserves as much toleration for error as they get.

    Do you really believe that? If you do, don't bother to answer.

    Here's the post in question--

    "The Associated Press named eight more congressmen and senators who received contributions engineered by Abramoff in return for political favors, four Republicans and four Democrats. The Republicans were congressmen Charles Taylor of North Carolina, J. D. Hayworth of Arizona, Todd Tiahrt of Kansas and Dave Camp of Michigan. The Democrats included three senators, Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow of Michigan and Byron Dorgan of North Dakota (the senior Democrat on the committee now investigating the Abramoff affair), and Congressman Dale Kildee of Michigan."

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/nov2005/abr1-n29.shtml

    As far as I can tell, the Associated Press did nothing of the kind. I'd like to be wrong on this, but I can't find any verification of this plain "fact."


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    Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:05 PM
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    29. Don't bother to answer? I want to bother to answer. Please! Please! Lemme!
    First you claim the WSWS claimed the AP claimed your congressman was a target in the Abramoff scandal. Your link doesn't support this claim. No one mentioned is said to be a target. Making things up? How can we treat you as a credible poster when you violate our trust? :)

    Second, below is a link describing how AP stories "have documented how more than four dozen lawmakers, Republicans and Democrats, took actions favorable to Abramoff clients around the time that they received large donations from the lobbyist and his clients." It's from the LA Times and since the Times is a fairly conservative corporate outlet, I'm guessing you and the American people will find it a reasonably credible source. I don't have time to do more research, but it looks like the WSWS is right on this one (as they so often are). There are, by the way, other articles out there where many of the four dozen are named. I'll leave it to you to Google for them.

    Third, do I think the WSWS deserves as much toleration for error as the Washington Post and the NY Times? What a silly question. Of course they deserve as much toleration. Why should the WSWS get less toleration? As far as I know, they've never cheerleaded the US into an illegal war at the cost of billions of dollars and thousands of lives and immeasurable misery. As far as I know they've never employed writers who simply parrot White House sources even when it's clear those sources are lying. As far as I know, they've never employed writers who simply make things up from scratch in order to advance their careers. Maybe the WSWS should get even more toleration. After all, they're on the side of progressives, something one probably can't say with a straight face about the corporate media.

    Here's your link:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/s...

    <edit>

    In all, AP stories over the last few months have documented how more than four dozen lawmakers, Republicans and Democrats, took actions favorable to Abramoff clients around the time that they received large donations from the lobbyist and his clients.

    more...
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    mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:07 PM
    Response to Reply #29
    30. Thanks for the link. You make a lot of good points actually. nt
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    AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:38 PM
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    19. Isn't Forbes a PNACer?
    Forbes published this article in October 2002 which must have gotten all oil execs interested in Iraq:

    http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2002/1028opec.htm

    Hitting OPEC by Way of Baghdad

    Iraq has huge oil reserves and the world's cheapest lifting costs. That's why a war against Saddam could change everything.


    Charting a military outcome in Iraq is dicey, and some say a bad turn of events could mean $100-a-barrel oil. But after any brief disruption, the oil-market effects of a neutralized or pro-Western successor to Saddam Hussein are unmistakably positive. Iraq sits on 120 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, second only to Saudi Arabia's 260 billion.

    "Since 1961, only in the years between 1973 and 1980 was there any exploration of Iraq's oil reserves," says Fadhil Chalabi, who was a ranking official at the Iraqi Ministry of Oil from 1968 to the mid-70s. "During that short period there were many discoveries of giant oilfields, which could now be developed very easily."

    Chalabi now directs the Centre for Global Energy Studies, a London think tank founded by former Saudi oil minister Sheikh Ahmed Zaki Yamani. He has ominous news for the sheikh's countrymen: Iraq's real recoverable oil reserves could be double today's estimate. "Ultimately they could exceed those of Saudi Arabia," Chalabi says. Wow. Therein lies a partial, if hardly party-line, answer to the doubters who say that an attack on Saddam would plunge Iraq into economic chaos.

    MORE
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    AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:03 PM
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    20. kick, and I should point out....

    this strategy is not totally honest. Oil prices have gone up anyway allowing all oil producers, including Saudis, to become even more filthy rich and provide more supply to developing nations like China and India.

    Attacking Baghdad has also allowed the US to relocate its bases from SA (requested by al-Qaida) allowing us to better protect all the wealth in the future.
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    FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:05 PM
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    21. For those who haven't
    check out Greg Palast's investigation he did not long ago about oil and Iraq at his website http://www.gregpalast.com It's very well done and lays everything out.
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    AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:55 PM
    Response to Reply #21
    23. Aha!...
    http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=471&row=0


    <snip>
    In November 2003, McKee quietly ordered up a new plan for Iraq's oil. The drafting would be overseen by a "senior adviser," Amy Jaffe, who had worked for Morse when he held the formidable title of Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations-James Baker III Institute Joint Committee on Petroleum Security. Jaffe now works for Baker, the former Secretary of State, whose law firm serves as counsel to both ExxonMobil and the defense minister of Saudi Arabia. The plan, nominally written by State Department contractor BearingPoint, was guided, says Jaffe, by a handful of oil industry consultants and executives.

    <snip>

    Given how easily the interests of OPEC and those of the IOCs can be aligned, it is certainly understandable why smashing the oil cartel would not strike oilmen as a good idea. In 2004, with oil approaching the $50-a-barrel mark all year, the major U.S. oil companies posted record or near record profits.

    <snip>

    When I talked to Ariel Cohen at Heritage, his dream of smashing OPEC in shambles, he blamed the State Department for acquiescing to the Saudis and to Russia, which also benefit s from selling oil at high OPEC prices. The poisonous policies were influenced, he said, by "Arab economists hired by the State Department who are basically supporting the witches' brew of the Saudi royal family and the Soviet ostblock . . . because the Saudis are interested in maximizing their market share and they're not interested in fast growth of the Iraqi output."

    According to Morse, the switch to an OPEC-friendly policy for Iraq was driven by Dick Cheney himself. "The person who is most influential in running American energy policy is the Vice President," who, says Morse, "thinks that security begins by . . . letting prices follow wherever they may."


    MUCH MORE
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    happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:49 PM
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    24. Releasing this info would set bad precedent
    Haven't you heard? Bush said that the Executive Branch needs to be empowered more. :sarcasm:


    Wasn't this the meeting where a map of all the oil deposits, wells, etc. in Iraq was presented?
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