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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:26 PM
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Bumiller: "I am here to tell you (Bush) reads the newspapers"

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512050006

Bumiller takes a stand on Matthews panel debate: "I am here to tell you reads the newspapers"

During a panel debate on the December 4 broadcast of NBC's syndicated The Chris Matthews Show about whether President Bush reads newspapers, New York Times reporter Elisabeth Bumiller said the claim that he doesn't is "crazy." She made this assertion despite Bush's own statement in 2003 that he "rarely reads the stories" and relies instead on briefings by members of his staff.

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From the December 4 broadcast of NBC's syndicated The Chris Matthews Show:

MATTHEWS: You know how guys won't ask directions when they drive somewhere? You know, "Don't tell me where to go I'll get there." Right? Is he like that?

KAY: The telling moment for me in his presidency was when he came out and said, "I feel that it's better --

MATTHEWS: Are you laughing about this, Elisabeth? Cause it's true of a lot of us but I meant him.

KAY: -- "that I get, I prefer to get my news and my information from objective sources, and those are the people around me," rather than from anything external.

BUMILLER: Katty -- he reads the papers. Please, you know, I -- this is crazy. Whenever I say this people don't believe me. He reads the newspapers. I am here to tell you he reads the newspapers.

MATTHEWS: He reads you?

BUMILLER: I can tell he reads the papers from the complaints that I get.

MATTHEWS: So can you tell his mood based upon his reaction to the things that you've written, other people have written?

BUMILLER: Well I mean, he reads the papers like a very busy person reads the papers -- you read the headlines, you read the first three graphs. He reads the papers like a well-informed person, and I can tell you what he complains about and what his staff complains about and his -- or, his wife reads the papers -- that I can tell you.

MATTHEWS: So the lights are on, and somebody's home. That's your message.

BUMILLER: Yes.

MATTHEWS: Your message is --

KAY: Reading the papers is different from deciding, "I am going to look at all the information available and then make my conclusions." He seems to have a conclusion and then choose the facts which fit that conclusion.

SULLIVAN: The only pages in the newspapers that he reads religiously are the sports pages.

MATTHEWS: How do you know that?

SULLIVAN: I've actually been told that by a member of his own family.



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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:29 PM
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1. Bumiller Is On The Payroll
Most assuredly. Read her stories. She doesnt even try to hide her bias. If I read an egregiously propogandistic piece in the Times, and I didn't notice the author, I think to myself "Bumiller", then look, and I'm always right.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:33 PM
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5. How the hell would she even know?
Unless of course, she was in bed with him on a regular basis.

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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:29 PM
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2. Stopped reading those too
Too may teams and too many sports. Can't keep up with so much information.
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:32 PM
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3. When the hell are they going to stop pimping for the ape?
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 02:32 PM by Bob3
God in heaven haven't they done enough damage? He's an incurious dolt who has heart full of a hate and messiah complex "god picked me to lead". He doesn't read. He doesn't want to read. All he wants is for people to kiss his butt. All day long. That's all he wants. Sniff his butt like he was a boss mandrill and declare it smells like the sweetest perfume in the world. That's all he wants. And to kill. By proxy of course but he does like the killing bit. But that doesn't leave time to read newspapers.

on edit - I can't spell
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:38 PM
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12. I'm reminded of
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 02:39 PM by ewagner
an account I once read concerning the failed attempt to assassinate Adolph Hitler in the rail car. The propaganda that came out of the failed attempt is frighteningly familiar.

As you recall, Hitler escaped the attempted assassination virtually without a scratch. Goebbels who was apparently there also, took great care to tell the newspapers how miraculously the glass, wood and debris flew all around the room but seemed to part and go around Hitler. Sub-text: Hitler was protected by divine providence. He was God's anointed.

Bumiller writes of Bush* in the same way. Everything he does is perfect. Everything he does is part of a (divine) plan.

We'll look back on this era as the Dark Ages of American Journalism.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:40 PM
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15. That's it in a nutshell.
perfect description, particularly the "killing" comments.
He is a psychopathic mass murderer.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:32 PM
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4. About that Sullivan quote:
SULLIVAN: I've actually been told that by a member of his own family.

I take it this is Andy Sullivan?

Do you suppose he has some contact with the Bush* twins?

I don't want this thread locked so I'll refrain from some humorous speculation..... :evilgrin:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:35 PM
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9. "I take it this is Andy Sullivan?"
yes
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:39 PM
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13. Sullivan's got more credibility on this than anyone, actually
And I believe him when he says Bush only reads the sports pages. That's an allegation he's made more than a few times before.

It's a sad day when they have to turn to a NYT shill to convince Americans that their President indeed reads the news. :eyes:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:41 PM
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17. Agree
I'd take Sullivan's word before I took Matthews....or Bumiller...
or Woodward...or Judith Miller....
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ktlyon Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:30 PM
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23. yes, very sad...
most people don't read either.... more sad
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:33 PM
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6. Fine! If he isn't a stupid corporate puppet than he's as evil as
the corporate leaders who bought his office for him!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:34 PM
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7. What, Bush is watching Bill Maher reruns?
Remember how old Bill used to read the paper to the the Monkey, because it was so famously reported that he did not read it himself??
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:35 PM
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8. So in other words, he doesn't read the paper.
Thanks Bumiller for clearing that up. :eyes:
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Presstitutes Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:36 PM
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10. More here
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:32 PM
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24. Presstitutes! Biostitutes! Is anyone NOT selling out?
Geez, where has integrity gone in this country? Is nothing "sacred" anymore -- everything available for a PRICE?

Makes me want to take a friggin' (cold) shower!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:37 PM
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11. So did he notice the RNC talking points?
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:40 PM
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14. her "reason" for "knowing" he reads was/is so laughable. . .
she knows he reads because "he" and his staff complain about what is in the paper. Gee. Don't you think it is possible that his staff might TELL him what is in the paper so he can complain?

It drives me crazy to watch these shows and have noone call people on thier assumptions. Must be the lawyer in me. I want them all cross examined on live TV.

Of course, think Coulter and how if anyone questions her assumptions she just starts yelling and attacking. But at least people might start to draw the correct assumptions. Instead, here you have Bush himself saying he doesn't read, then some journalistic hack saying "I know he reads the papers" and the next thing you know. . .the myth becomes reality and everyone now "knows" Bush is well informed.

(She also tried to explain by saying he reads the headlines and the first few grafs "like all well informed people do." Yeah. I read the headlines and first few grafs of stories that do not interest me. for the rest of the stuff I read the whole article. Oh yeah, and a couple of books a week, most of them non-fiction current events or history.

But you'd think the war mongering leader of the free world would do more.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:41 PM
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16. So.... she goes from "I'm telling you, he reads the papers"...
... to, "Well, ok, his staff reads the papers. Or maybe his wife. Hell, I dunno."

Damn! I'm convinced!! :eyes:
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wixomblues Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:42 PM
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18. Right...........
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:43 PM
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19. Just to see if Bushco is getting what it paid for.
Is the propaganda being catapulted?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:46 PM
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20. Who cares about the papers? Does he or Laura read the internet news? nt
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:49 PM
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21. Bumiller=another reason to continue my boycott of the NYT.
I have not spent a penny on the Times since I learned the truth about J. Miller.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:50 PM
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22. She sounded ridiculous trying to prop him up like that.
Good lord, I thought it was his wife defending him, or his mother.

She really, really wanted to convince everyone that Bush is smart and he does read the newspapers.

Her editor should be calling her into his office for a long, long chat today.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:33 PM
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25. So then he just doesn't understand what is written in them? Is that it?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:49 PM
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26. Bumiller HAS to suck up
If she slips even a millimeter from One True Path, she will lose all her access. And does she have access! I predict in 2010, Elizabeth--sorry, that's "Elisabeth"--will come out with a book detailing all of the insider material that she omitted for the previous decade of covering George W. Bush. She will hope that by that time, folks will forget all about her weekly valentines she wrote to Bush in the Times.

Her puzzling assertion that she knows for a fact, and apparently personally knows for a fact, that Bush reads the newspapers, how he reads the papers, what his habits are down to how many paragraphs he routinely reads, is just beyond belief. I don't know that level of detail about Mrs. gratuitous' newspaper reading habits, and we sit at the same breakfast table.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:51 PM
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27. sports and funnies don't count Bueller
x
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