Will we ever have a non-corporatist government?

Will the next government still be ruled by big business or will we see a political revolution and actually be governed by people who care about us?

Flag burning ammendments? Banning video games? PERMANENT OCCUPATION OF IRAQ??

These are not the values of the Democratic Party.

2006 election of a Democratic majority in either the Senate or House (but hopefully both) is essential. We must focus on this goal. Hopefully, the DINOs of the DLC will be purged after that. I don't think we can do both in the near term.

..to acquire so much power and wealth that the days of non-corporate
influence is long gone... (If there ever was a time..)

Flushing out the * junta will help make a lot of people see how bad things have gotten.

gov't, but it's never going to go away. I don't know if you really want it to "go away" either. The biggest problem now is that many of the Corps have gotten out of control. They're convinced that they can get away with anything.

The public has forced SOME change by demanding law suits, trials, and jail time for some of them, and there's still more to come.

AFTER the Dems take control again, we all need to push for disolving the media mess through anti trust laws, and put some real leaders in charge of the SEC, FDA, and the justice department.

It won't change overnight, but it will get better.

Is to make publicly financed election campaingns the law of the land. Until then we're screwed.

a zero chance without clean elections

Odd how business and property have more rights than people or seems to, to me.

but the corp. interests will be more on our side.Hopefully.

They rest higher than any government institution established by people for the simple fact that these corporations can now move freely from continent to continent with relative ease.

If a government decides to impose labor standards, environmental standards, etc., then these corporations can then apply pressure on that government by threatening to move operations to countries that don't do such things, or they can get the World Trade Organization to intervene and overrule government.

To answer your question: Put simply, not in my lifetime.

to allow individual (&collective) labor to have the upper hand in negotiating wages and working conditions. The specific laws would be irrelevant if labor were scarce in relation to capital and land.

As for environmental standards, the consuming country has the ability to control the nature of the environmental impact of the producer. If we did the above, we would remain the world's consumer - and have the opportunity to dictate, through corrective tarriffs / pollution charges, etc. what sort of environmental rules producers complied with.

And we should never surrender self government to the WTO or any other extragovernmental agency. (Though, for the record, I am a supporter of free trade, and think we'd benefit from eliminating subsidies and protective tarriffs, regardless of whom we trade with - but that's another discussion)

But, even if you were born today, probably not in your lifetime.

That is why according to every major elite publication, population growth and encouragement of open immigration (i.e. migrant labor) is considered essential to a healthy economy.

Compare to the collapse of feudalism in the wake of the Black Death.

Yes.

But not in our lifetime.

We will never have a government not ruled by those groups.

Today's attitude is that money talks. The government has been transformed, it use to be of the people for the people by the people ------ that is not true in any shape way or form these days.

The new American government is; by the corporation for the corporation and of the corporation.

The mafia is now legitimate, it never died, it is running the country.