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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:37 PM
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Vanity Fair: Miller "had built a reputation for sleeping with her sources"
(Kpete: Why am I not surprised?)

'Vanity Fair' Offers Fresh Details on Judith Miller Saga
The New York Times Co.
Judith Miller left the Times last month after 28 years at the paper.

By E&P Staff
Published: December 06, 2005 5:00 PM ET

NEW YORK In a lengthy feature piece on this autumn's Judith Miller saga forthcoming in the January issue of Vanity Fair (on newstands Dec. 13), writer Seth Mnookin covers much familiar ground but also reveals new details and complaints from the reporter's colleagues at The New York Times. Publisher Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr. also gets a good working-over from unnamed in-house critics.

The Vanity Fair article reveals that the Times team actually finished a draft of that piece exactly a week before it appeared. Adam Liptak, one of the team members, recalls printing it out at 3 a.m. on a Saturday morning and reading it in the cab home, before deciding, "This thing sucks and I don't want my name on it. ... There was no logical reason why she couldn't tell us her testimony." So it went through another week of drafting, with Miller finally convinced, partly on the advice of her Times friend David Barstow, to reveal her grand jury testimony.

Elsewhere, Mnookin pulls no punches in stating that over the years Miller "had built a reputation for sleeping with her sources," had dated one of Sulzberger's best friends, Steve Ratner, "and had even, for a time, shared a vacation home with Sulzberger," whatever that means.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001615297


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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:39 PM
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1. gives a literal definition of the phrase "media whore"
:puke:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:38 PM
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22. As the Thompson Twins would say... "Judy DO!"... (or perhaps "DO Judy!")
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 08:56 PM by calipendence
Sounds like Judy "do"'s a lot! :)

http://cdbaby.com/mp3lofi/thompsontwins-04.m3u
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:49 PM
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71. Sorry, Still No Bigger Media Whore Than Jeff Gannon
boy, that website sure picked a wrong time to shut down.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:40 PM
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2. Geez. I wonder what her cost was for a front page story?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:40 PM
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3. I Hate Whores. Worse, Ugly Whores. Worse Still, Ugly Media Whores
:puke:
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:43 PM
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4. Keep your eyes out for JM's
twisted sister response on her website.
Sigh...
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:43 PM
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5. Good God! I wonder if she slept with Rove!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:48 PM
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9. They Were About To But Got Into A Fight. She Wouldn't Share Her Anal Plug
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:54 PM
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11. he did let her have some of this, though
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:32 PM
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19. or Jimmy Jeff.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:48 PM
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10. ... or Cheney, with elephantiasis.
:evilgrin:
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:45 AM
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49. Why? Does it say she uses a strap-on?
Why else would she be of "romantic" use to Rove?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:24 PM
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69. .
:puke:

No story is worth THAT!

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:46 PM
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6. I'm still taking bets that it was not Libby but Big Dick Cheney that she
that was her main, cough cough, source.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:47 PM
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8. Ouch-ie!
Now, THAT's taking one for the team.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:54 PM
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13. Yeah, but the team was the BushCo Skull & Boner Cabal
Not the NYT or the American people.

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:00 PM
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15. That's the team I mean
:)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:16 PM
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16. The team of meanies
and kinKys 2
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:38 PM
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21. I am sorry but I am afraid
or perhaps happy that I envision dick having a totally unused, in decades, and useless shriveled thing hanging where most men have the family jewels.

The heart meds and surgeries have surely taken their toll on poor little dick's little...
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:24 PM
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38. Maybe she just let Cheney watch.
Seeing as he is all shriveled and everything.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:36 AM
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40. no doubt
But I am sure that Dick found J. Miller quite appealing. I bet she could have gotten very close to him without much effort. Libby's wife is quite beautiful, BTW. I think old Dick was a sitting duck, regardless of whether he could do anything about it. I imagine him smitten. I mean, look at what he has to live with.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:52 AM
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53. Actually Cheney is alleged to be a man of "substance"
This pic gave rise to a lot of speculation about Cheney's substantial endowments:

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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 10:49 PM
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36. Don't forget about Johnny Bolton! nt
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:46 PM
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7. Eeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuwwwwwww.
Miller and Libby sitting in a tree
K - I - S - S - I - N - G

Eeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuwwwww


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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 10:02 PM
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32. Judas Miller and Scooter ... drawn together
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 10:06 PM by Neil Lisst
She's disgusting and so is Scooter. Here are 3 cartoons on the topic.



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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:54 PM
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12. K&R, kpete. nt
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:54 PM
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14. Mrs. Libby had better get herself checked out for STDs quick! n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:24 PM
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17. One More Elephant in the Room Exposed. n/t
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:28 PM
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18. What a Skank!
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 08:28 PM by babsbunny
Did
i spell that right?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:32 PM
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20. So when Libby mentioned "aspens turning" he really meant boffing?
:shrug:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:39 PM
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23. Yep her nickname was E.C.
Read this:

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2005/7/8/161638/4256

Fellow female correspondents in Beirut had a very rough nickname for Judy - "Egregious ***T" - which some of them abbreviated (E.C.) and had silk-screened onto T-shirts.

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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:55 PM
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25. Hey--maybe Cafe Press should sell them! n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:48 AM
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51. I submit using EC for Judith from now on - saves space& words
And goes well with Dildo Riley. I don't need T-shirts though...:shrug:
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:54 PM
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24. The real whore might be the Old Grey Lady herself.
I heard an authorative rumor a couple of years ago. Told to me by a former Notre Dame University prof, who said that some years back, the President of that university was caught having inappropriate sexual contact with an undergraduate in his office. According to my informant, the President was a Priest (which is normal at a Catholic university) and the undergraduate was male. But the remarkable part of the rumor is this: the university payed $10 million to the NY Times to keep them from reporting this story. Of course, I have absolutely no way of knowing if this rumor is true. But it is so wonderfully creepy, I can't help but repeating it. :grin:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 09:06 PM
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26. Finally! The sex angle!
Now we gottum by the short hairs!
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 09:08 PM
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27. Oh, effing RALF.
Keeee-RIST!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 09:13 PM
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28. Skank indeed
I need no visuals for this, thanks.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 09:22 PM
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29. Judith was brilliant she knew how evil men can be manipulated
they think with only one part of their body!!!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 09:46 PM
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30. Umberto Eco --" Now all we need is a Templar connection"
Actually, there may be one. After all, we are dealing with the Middle East and the NYTimes.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:38 AM
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48. They're so easily lead when their little head does the thinking
nt
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 09:52 PM
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31. If Maureen Dowd needs a source...
well...I've got some tails to tell.

I can't say I'm surprised about Miller at least. She seems to be a little "over invested" in the political intrigue. Coming out of prison like a smiley cheerleader with moist bloomers.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:14 AM
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42. Skankiness just oozes from MODO's pores
it makes me uncomfortable to watch her on the teevee.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:25 AM
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45. She does seem to be a bit of a flirt.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:52 AM
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52. So flirt and skank are the same thing?
Ah the values we judge women by...

:eyes:
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:11 AM
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54. Let's see...I never used the term skank.
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 10:15 AM by izzybeans
:eyes:

I was gingerly turning a reference with which you and I both disagree with.

I find sexuality coupled with high self-esteem pretty damned attractive. Hence my first post. I do however feel sorrow for someone like Miller who seems desperate for attention. The term skank would not be one I would choose.

Those are my judgemental bases laid bare. Plus the fact that it rhymes with my last name and I know the childishness of it being thrown around personally.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:53 AM
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55. Fair enough
I did not catch that you were calling the other poster out on their use of the word and it sounded like you were suggesting that a woman who flirts is a skank. Sorry I didn't catch that (it's still early).

Of course, the use of the word skank in this thread does demonstrate the point of my post - that being by what criteria we judge and condemn women. The original article is actually interesting in that the person being interviewed seemed to think it necessary to include the idea that JM is sleeping her way to the good stories, that this was her "reputation". Says a great deal about how women are judged in general and the responses on this thread support that idea rather than challenging why the point was made in the first place.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:55 AM
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56. I agree with you entirely.
I shouldn't have taken it so light heartedly. I was sort of joking my way out of this thread.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 10:39 PM
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33. reminds me of Annette Bening in "The Siege"
her character was a federal agent "entangled" with her contact...
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 10:43 PM
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34. So she would deepthroat Deepthroat?
nt.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 10:44 PM
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35. Threesome's...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:24 PM
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37. She sounds like a real "character". Considering she is married.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:25 PM
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39. I had a feeling she was doing stuff like that...
...not surprising at all...
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:33 AM
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41. No! She's a hero because she protected her ass, er, I mean her piece of
ass, er, I mean her source of ass, I mean her SOURCE.

Oh, never mind.

:evilgrin:
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:51 AM
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43. Pillow talk with Chalabi?
Miller likes to cover all of her aspens. :P
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:14 AM
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44. Do we have to descend to the depths the repukes did with Bill?
Bring out all the jeffy gannon and judy miller dirty laundry and poppy and the young boys in the White House. The revulsion among the cultists would overthrow the clowns without the dems. moving a muscle.
This group is like a vile pile of worms all intertwining in their own hell.
I hope they get taken down.
:nopity:
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:29 AM
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46. Explains a lot.
Slut.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:30 AM
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47. I wonder if she raped Mann Coulter
Coulter seems to think that everyone (including the DU) wants to rape her..

I bet Coulter is from another planet, one where the residents appear to be female (mostly) but have a full range of sexual organs, some of which we can't even imagine, like a swiss army knife - I wonder what their bathrooms would look like :)

Of course since Coulter seems to be of many sexes she can go f*ck herself, uh, rape herself at will..

(In case anyone is wondering, Coulter accused the DU of telling people to Rape Her.. like anyone would touch that thing with a 10 foot Pole, or a Nine foot German for that matter.. :) )

I think having sex with miller would be much like trying to screw a pile of autumn leaves.. crunchy, dry, "roomy", very airy, full of insects and twigs, just "laying there", and unable to catch fire as it's moldy :)
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:47 AM
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50. Why do you think her and Dowd have been going at it?
Open secret for a number of years.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:56 AM
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57. If Libby fucked this ugly bitch, he deserves to be in jail....
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:46 AM
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58. I recently subscribed to Vanity Fair because of the hard-hitting political
pieces lately. Not sure if this is standard for them or not. You have to dig for these pieces through all the ads, but there have been some great reads on the Iraq debacle and the troops, monthly.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:38 PM
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61. Its a great magazine
Full of (mostly) good political stories, gossip, fashion, travel, good fiction, etc.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:53 PM
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63. "To live and die in Iraq" was a good piece in the Martha Stewart issue
Though I was disappointed that Aussie Elle MacPherson came off as vacuous as she read.

"I look good in white!"

BFD
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:06 PM
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59. RAW gets Vanity Fair piece on Judith Miller...
RAW gets Vanity Fair piece on Judith Miller... Reportedly slept with Congressman...Developing
http://www.rawstory.com/
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:58 PM
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64. Ever get the feeling
that the level of "power" that lime-lighters like Miller wield, or think they wield, is so far above the average mensch that the lime-lighters simply combust into insanity?

Glad I'm the average mensch.
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SamuelAlito Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:11 PM
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60. Too Bad She Quit Before I got Nominated
Or I would have loved to be her "source."

After all, have you seen my wife?

The Right Honorable Samuel A. Alito, Jr.
(the A stands for Awesome)
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bostonbabs Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:40 PM
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62. every interview I have seen
of her I have felt that she plays: sexy,provocative,eye twinkler glances towards men.....very obvious to me.her recent interview in Britan showed her being seated to a couch and she was 'over the top" giggly etc.they then cut to the interview.......why did they show her being seated?......I think for this very inappropriate reason.......manipulation.( the interviewer WAS very handsome tee hee)
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:03 PM
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65. She is sooooooo not hot. n/t
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GaitWayDem Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:11 PM
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66. I guess you could say she was 'in-bedded' nt
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:18 PM
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67. It is only scandalous because she is a woman
If it were a male reporter sleeping with the people he was writing for or about, people would be :boring:
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:24 PM
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68. Since most powerful politicians are still male....
It would, indeed, be a scandal if "Jeff" Miller had slept with his sources.

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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:34 PM
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70. maybe so n/t
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