Well, Foxnews Hit A New Low Today

At work this morning, H&C was blasting over in the corner and I heard the debate of if Kwanza was a "valid" holiday.

Colmes looked flabergasted, as if Hannity hijacked a segment and placed this bullshit in the middle.

If Kwanza's validity is questioned, then let's question the validity or other holidays....or let's not, and realize that we are FREE to have any damned holiday we please!

FOX SUCKS!

is a daily event.

Kwanzaa and all of it.

The pretty trees and gifts and cookies are good, though!

Like, I officially announce today is Eddy Rochelle Day. Light a blue candle for my depression, a Red Candle for the blood from my papercut, and a black candle for the death of our fucking nation.

it was started, on an arbitrary date, but a bunch of revolutionaries to commemorate their struggle for acceptance in a hostile society.

to commemorate their history. duh.

:rofl:

just figured it out. I was going for the Macabees and the Apostles, actually. but the Fourth works.

The same could be said about Christmas, needless to say. Revolutionary bastards, those early Christians, to be sure.

The silly "Kwanza is not legitimate" argument often proceeds in the most unhistorical ways, as you suggest. The only real argument these people have is that Kwanza is recent. All it's other characteristics (syncretism in particular) match Christmas point for point.

In any case, as Ice Cube once said,

Go to church and they tease us
With pictures of a blue-eyed Jesus

Cheers.

is that (shhh) no one else seems to have picked up on that fun fun fun

The holiest of those holidays are kept by ourselves, silent and apart, the secret anniversaries of the heart.

We accept or reject holidays as we choose to embrace them. It's no one's damned business what we celebrate in our lives. That's as individual and personal as the deeper questions of life.

For me, I am a Chiropodean. We think God is a big, giant foot (with apologies to Captain Cutshaw). That's as "legitimate" as Christianity, which has very suspect underpinnings, if one starts being demanding about historical verisimilitude.

made up by the florists, also Father's Day, Grandparents Day, Secretaries Day, but I bet Hannity calls his mom on Mother's Day! In very recent memory, ML King day did not exist until someone declared it a holiday.

they were just waiting for someone named Martin Luther King to deserve it.

Christmas will be fine, after all Jesus WAS born on Dec 25th, wasn't he.

Oh and Christmas tress have absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with paganism.

Excellent.

saturnalia, yule, solstice, etc., etc, etc (come to think of it, ALL christian holidays were stolen from the pagans)

so what is your point?

***northzax continues whistling past the graveyard.***

why would you ever think that?

It's a holiday that allows people to affirm a number of virtues. I'm not sure it was intended as a "Black ONLY" holiday, simply a holiday constructed out of a number of African traditional celebrations.

Is Hannity encouraging a War On Kwanzaa?

--p!

If it binds people, it's a great thing!

And like always they had a "fair and balanced" panel discussing the current politics of the Iraq war that was made up of Fred Barnes (evangelical republican), Morton Kondrake (republican that likes to pretend he is a Zell like Democrat), the moderator Brit Hume (typical right wing republican) and the token Democrat, some lady that barely opened her mouth except to defend the Bush administration.

"Valid"? It's as valid as anything else, you latent racist piece of crap.

Jesus was almost certainly not born anywhere near Dec. 25. That day is borrowed from the Saturnalia.

And the tree-trimming business goes back to Germanic pagan celebrations of the winter solstice.

Put that in your hat and smoke it, laughing boy.

Fecking Jayziz!
:rofl:

"Just exactly how legitimate is this tiny, late-comer religion"?

And that's aside from the whole issue of the silly acceptances at the heart of it.

I can't see anything wrong with these principles:

Umoja (Unity)To strive for and maintain unity in the family, community, nation and race.

Kujichagulia (Self-Determination)To define ourselves, name ourselves, create for ourselves and speak for ourselves.

Ujima (Collective Work and Responsibility)To build and maintain our community together and make our brother's and sister's problems our problems and to solve them together.

Ujamaa (Cooperative Economics)To build and maintain our own stores, shops and other businesses and to profit from them together.

Nia (Purpose)To make our collective vocation the building and developing of our community in order to restore our people to their traditional greatness.

Kuumba (Creativity)To do always as much as we can, in the way we can, in order to leave our community more beautiful and beneficial than we inherited it.

Imani (Faith)To believe with all our heart in our people, our parents, our teachers, our leaders and the righteousness and victory of our struggle.

those were American values too...*sob*