RE: There have been no attacks SINCE 9/11 claim

I've heard this drivel rearing its head again a couple times in the last week and thought it could use a bit of examination. Apparently the fact that we haven't had a full 9/11 sequal in NYC somehow proves to some people that Bush is doing a masterful job of protecting us.

And frankly it sounds very...absolute. THERE HAVE BEEN NO ATTACKS ON US.

Well...perhaps we should ask what that means. How many PREQUELS did we have? And what was the timeframe on this? When we talk about ATTACKS on us do we ONLY count attacks of Islamic or ME Origin? Or can we count attacks by White, homegrown nutburgers like McVey and Koresh?

And when we say there have been no attacks does that mean attempts? Attempts of a certain scale? Attempts that have achieved a certain level of change?

Because frankly I think we need to throw a few things back in the face of these claims.

We have been attacked. There have been MANY attempts...at least according to the terror alert level.

Moreover our allies, spain and London (both of whom should have been safe since we were FIGHTING THEM OVER THERE so they WOULDN"T COME OVER HERE...have had terrible bombings.

And we've how many alerts? Oh yeah...and a shoe bomber? Does that count as an attack? Or just an attempt (which needs to be distinguished...then again if we are distinguishing it we have an answer to that OVER THERE vs OVER HERE CRAP).

And what about that anthrax mailer? Where is he again? Doesn't that count as a terrorist attack? Or do we only count people who blow themselves up in the process?

Face it...we're being attacked over there...around the block (In Europe) and OVER HERE...

We are daily hitting the hornets nest with a big stick...and just like we had semi-regular attacks every few years BEFORE 9/11 we are having the same after 9/11. We've had 4 years now where there has been massive war and death, shoe bombers, fear, intrusive crackdowns, etc...and there is NOTHING to indicate we are an iota safer than we were in the 4 years before 9/11. In fact...we have MORE unanswered questions and unnamed enemies now than we did before.

Feel safer now? Yeah...Bush is doing a bangup job. Keep telling yourself there have been no attacks since 9/11. As long as you don't count 2100 dead troops, anthrax attacks, bombings in London and Spain, shoe bombers, and hell knows how many attempts and coverups going on apparently daily if the persistent TERROR alert is any indication.

Happy thoughts.

clear.

just askin those of you who believe this sort of bullshit logic and B: those who say Clinton was weak on terror.

as if their dumb monkey is protecting us. I always point out that after the first WTC attack, in early 1993, they did not try again until 2001.

He's obviously not a terrorist. Considering his targets were two Democratic senators, a tabloid, and Dan Rather, he must be a patriot!
Duh!
:sarcasm:

(Yes, it burns me that the sonofabitch who tried to assassinate two prominent Democratic senators (including one from my home state) and Dan Rather is still on the loose. And while I have no evidence, it is my opinion that the government "doesn't know" who the person is because of who they targeted. Everything is political policy to the Bush Administration. Even an investigation like the anthrax mailer. "Since he tried to kill Daschle, who cares if he's caught or not?")

about 'fighting them over there ... yada yada".

I remind the speaker that the Madrid attacks happened while Spain WAS 'over there'. That since Spain pulled out of Iraq they have not been attacked again.

when we do get hit in a substantial way again...and it will happen again. And I'd bet in the next 3 years. Think the pukes will lay the blame at Bush's feet if it happens a week (or 9 months) after a Democrat takes office?

No...Clinton is responsible for everything bad that happened while Clinton was in office. And Clinton is responsible for everything bad that has happened while Bush was in office.

I'm so glad we're living in an ERA OF PERSONAL FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY.

I wish I couldn't think of a mistake I'd ever made...I could be president.

Volunteers, and we even mandate they remain virgins -- not fraternizing.
Stay the course, exit strategy of body bags into 6-foot deep holes.

Many say we've been asked to give up nothing.
NOT TRUE. We've given up our rights, our freedoms.
"They hated us for our freedoms." Yet, now, they hate us more.

Why bother attacking us.
Our national debt. We'll kill ourselves.
Only pushes dimwits to support Bush more blindly.

What would work for them? What could they do?
Of the things they could do,
they're all .. bad.

The idea that Bush will get a rise from it is going to be the most disgusting element.

very obvious and BIG I'm cynical and sadly suspicious enough to think that the government would more then likely keep all "attacks" that they could quiet or quickly covered up as something else. Other then possibly being able to declare martial law, which is a hand I don't think they want to play (at least not yet), what would it benefit BushCo, etc at this point if there were KNOWN attacks? Americans would know for a fact that they are NOT any safer under Bush and the Republicans and of course they wouldn't want that.

Mind you I'm not saying there have been BUT... are you absolutely 100% positive of that?"

After stating the above and watching RWers attempts to pooh pooh it I find that ever after I can see them wondering as the suspicion creeps it's way into their minds. When it works it's merely because the few that truly and absolutely TRUST the government and politicians are as rare as hens teeth.

Was that from terrorists or our own CIA?

And who says that Sept 11th we were attacked?

Weren't they supposed to be hijackers with box cutters? Does that constitute an attack?

but only when wielded by people from distant countries.

Anthrax on the other hand, is just some sorta college prank apparently....down there with torturing prisoners if it serves some GOPurposes.

It was a great moment in one of the debates when one of the blowhards (was it Brokaw?) asked this question. I thought it was the ultimate answer.