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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:38 PM
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Where Did This: "John Kerry Calls US Soldiers Terrorists"...
come from? I just saw this on another discussion forum. What is this meat head referring to?
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:41 PM
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1. he said soldiers are breaking into homes
in the middle of the night terrorizing civilians-of course asshole Limbaugh says Kerry called our troops terra-ists
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:43 PM
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3. Watch for yourself
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 07:45 PM by dutchdemocrat
I wonder if this is what Kerry is seeing too?

These soldiers are absolutely terrorizing Iraqi civilians... beating them... women screaming, kicking in doors, flashbangs... it's a nightmare. And put together as a trophy video by a soldier no less.

Video is in Macromedia Flash 8 format.

http://chris-floyd.com/fallujah/new1/army/

This one is even worse.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/warcrime/
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:54 PM
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11. It's ridiculous.


Still shot from the video below. Lady terrorized in her own home while laying on the couch. Soldiers kicking in the door and she screams... they scream - everyone is fucked up. This video is fucked up.

http://chris-floyd.com/fallujah/new1/army /
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:37 PM
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19. Makes as much sense as this
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bammertheblue Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:44 PM
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4. Wait...
so if I jump out from behind the door and terrorize my brother, I'm a terrorist too, right? By Rush's logic, I mean. (Not that I have a gun when I do it).
What a tool.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:54 PM
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10. Yes, of course you are! Now leave your brother alone....Mom
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bammertheblue Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:12 PM
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14. no kidding
he crashed his car, he's been through enough! Eek!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:41 PM
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2. Here
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:49 PM
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8. Here's another summary - including theFace the Nation text
From Democratic daily:

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1325

This is the best summary I've seen - Kerry was only saying the same thing he's talked about for the last month and a half. Part of Kerry's plan is a sensible reccomendation that Iraqis police Iraqi neighborhoods and do the search and destroy missions - for 2 reasons - they put US soldiers who can't speak the language at risk and fuel anti- American hatred. The RW is twisting his words.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:44 PM
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5. It's a lie. He never called them terrorists
He said that American soldiers should not be going around terrorizing Iraq women and children on raids -- the Iraqis should be doing the raids instead. I don't have the quote handy but it was on Face the Nation. It's a lie, and the right wing is trying to twist his words. Now that Swift Boat jerk O'Neill is back on cable spouting his usual Nixon era lies about Kerry. This, of course, proves that * is in trouble if all the right wing can do is attack the man he defeated a year ago. Their plan now seems to be attack as many Democratic veterans as possible.

By the way, I hope you were referring to Rush Limbaugh when you said "meathead".
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:45 PM
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6. Yes, an as usual he didn't state it right!
He talked about "American soldiers shouldn't be breaking into Iraqi homes in the dead of night terrorizing civilians."

He meant the people doing the hose checks should be Iraqi's and it would be more beneficial and far less frightening to the civilians.

As usual, Kerry doesn't speak like a normal person. I'm not sure what it is. Some say he speaks like a Senator. I don'tt know, but I'm tired of having to always explain for him!!!!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:47 PM
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7. He should have said it just this way.
Cuz it's the truth. Screw the timid and the bastards who can't stand the truth. This is what is happening. No matter what anyone says the right wing is going to twist it, so just say what the hell is happening.

This is also what Cong. Murtha said. It was a key reason as to why he thought the US should begin to pull out troops. The Democrats have to tell the truth and not be afraid of the RW Spin machine.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:00 PM
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12. I'm not disagreeing with what he said, just how he said it!
He should have added the "Iraqi's should be doing those searches, not Americans."

He didn't, which leaves the opening to all his opponents to take his words and exlpoit them!

It's a shame, but I think Kerry is assuming most of the American people are smarter than they really are, or perhaps it's they're just not paying enough attention!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:27 PM
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21. He did say that. Specifically.
And he has said that again and again since Oct 26th when he first used that argument to call for a pullback of US troops. (It's the reson behind the logic that the solution to Iraq is not military, it's political. You can't have US troops going in without knowing the language and customs and doing the house-to-house searches.)

You can't avoid the RW traps. Screw them. You have to say what you want and just know that they will cut off the end of the sound bite. It's wrong, it's not journalism and it's not true. But this is what they do. The alternative is to say nothing which is unacceptable.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:11 PM
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13. I would like to slap the Oxy out of his mouth!
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:15 PM
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15. when I was 6 I was terrorized
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 08:32 PM by ray of light
by rocks thrown through my living room window in the middle of the night.

Yes...I was terrorized, scared to death, and suffered extreme fear and anxiety as a result. The people who threw the rock through the window were our neighbors who had a different religious belief system from us.

They were indeed reckless in their behavior all because their culture was different from ours.

Now, fast forward to 30 years later, and you have men (occupiers) of a different nationality and faith, barging threw doors, carrying loaded guns, and shouting in a different language to everyone in the house...You think these people are terrorized? Scared to death? Suffer post traumatic stress and high levels of anxiety as a result?

Give me a break.

With all the whines for Democrats to show backbones, Kerry showed backbone by stating the unequivocal truth--and you have people in here complaining.

Heck..I give Senator Kerry the BACKBONE AWARD!!!

Thank you JK! Thank YOU Max Cleland! AND Thank YOU David Wade for showing the BACKBONE needed against this incompetent, smearing, blathering, neocon con men!!!!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:40 PM
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20. I've seen both Deans and Kerry's words of the last few days paired up
there are those who think neither "said it right" when Dean said the war couldn't be won, and Kerry said that soldiers are terrorizing women and children.

I think they were both merely telling the truth.

I would think as a Deaniac you'd recognize the tactic.
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:53 PM
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9. Kerry said that other soldiers said they saw war crimes ...
commited by US forces.
was in 1971, or so .

I that what you refer to?
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:15 PM
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16. DEMONIZATION WORKS
You didn't probably take too much note of this during the last election.
We're still on the "learning curve" regarding Repuke demonization.

They trashed Kerry with swiftboat, etc etc...and perhaps we thought he didn't articulate his message sufficiently to win.

WRONG.

He was effectively demonized.

Now Limbaugh is making a science out of it. You see...the Vietnam era was a dark day in America history...due to weakness....fueled by liberal unpatriotic weak kneed policies.

This is the only way they can talk their way out of this crap war.
Liberals are unpatriotic.
They can't defend the country.
They have no strength.

To be a REAL American...well...you buy into the notion that you fight the enemy head on...regardless of the odds...regardless of whether things are good or bad....you show your strength....and in this unflinching strength....well then he will inevitably back down.

Nazi.
Circa WWII.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:24 PM
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17. And if you are ever "terrified"
it stands to reason that whatever you were terrified of must be a "terrorist."
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:25 PM
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18. Kennyboy Mehlman said that in a twist on Kerry's statement
I think he barfed that one up on MTP. I saw it and wanted to punch him right thru the tv screen.
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