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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:55 PM
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New Witness in DeLay-Abramoff Scandal (Dailykos)
For some time now I have written about the Abramoff scandal and its links to the Commonwealth of North Marianas Islands (CNMI)--especially how Jack, Tom DeLay and the GOP worked to protect sweatshops and the economic control of CNMI by the Tan Family of Hong Kong, China.

One big player in that story is Ben Fitial. He is the new CNMI Governor-elect and a former Tan Company VP who DeLay had installed as CNMI Speaker of the House in 1999-2000.

Today, comes the report out of CNMI that Ben is talking to the Feds about Tom and Jack:


The Marianas Variety Online reports that Governor-elect Benigno R. Fitial says he will cooperate with federal authorities in the ongoing investigation of Rep. Tom Delay and former Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff, whom he once described as his "close friends."

(more)

<http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/7/20332/6168>
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:06 PM
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1. Spill the Beans, Ben
Spill the beans...

Just tell the truth without prejudice or malice. The plain truth.

Spill the beans.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:09 AM
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18. That's right. Spill 'em.
Spill 'em out!

:)
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:32 PM
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2. Ooh, Good One
Gives me shivers of anticipation.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:43 PM
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3. Rec'd. Sing like your five beers into karaoke night, Ben.
:)
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:34 PM
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8. Hey, beelever! Do we need a new "I Believe" thread?
:hi:

I believe!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:44 PM
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10. Sing, Sing, Sing
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:56 PM
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4. Here is the rest of dengre's Diary for people to read - Delay is in such
deep sh@#! ((Kos doesn't care about copyright)

What a twisted web the GOP has spun:


-snip-
The Marianas Variety is the Tan Family opposition paper on CNMI. They add a few more details:

House leadership spokesman Charles P. Reyes Jr. said Speaker Fitial "will comply with all the legal requirements asked of him."

But Reyes said it's unfair that Fitial's name is always being associated with Delay, R-Texas, and Abramoff.

In April, when news about DeLay's and Abramoff's possible ethical violations broke, Fitial issued a statement in their defense.

"I join Congressman DeLay in condemning this unfair criticism, which has even gone to the extent of attacking the Northern Marianas for its efforts to rightfully defend itself against hostile federal takeover attempts orchestrated by partisan political groups and other liberal special interest groups," said Fitial in a statement issued on April 20.


But Mike Scanlon was one of the two operatives that Delay sent to CNMI to ensure that Fitial was elected speaker. This has been widely reported and it is no surprise that the Feds would want to talk to Ben about DeLay and Abramoff. One report was by Ruth L. Tighe, A CNMI print and online columnist, who wrote in Jan. 2000 (emphasis added):

Obscene. As in "offensive to accepted standards of decency." Is there any better word to describe the machinations of the unholy trio that is trying so hard to disrupt the normal, routine, civilized way the CNMI House of Representatives usually does business?

Adding to the obscenity of it all is the fact that one of the unholy trio behind all these machinations is an outsider. He doesn't live here, he's never lived here, he isn't registered to vote here, and so far as I know, he doesn't have any family or relatives here. But, it is said - and it appears obvious - that he has friends here, and even, so the rumors go, financial interests. As if that weren't bad enough, he is a member of the U.S. Congress.

Just what is a member of the U.S. Congress doing interfering with the internal politics of the CNMI? Sending his staff out to, in effect, bribe members of the House by promises of direct financial support from Congress (and Fitial has freely admitted that two aides to Congressman Tom Delay did indeed meet with Rota representative Alejo M. Mendiola and newly-elected representative from Tinian Norman S. Palacios)? Particularly when the CNMI is not a U.S. possession, is not under the control of the U.S. Congress - as is Washington, D.C. - but is a member of the U.S. family via a Covenant that in some cases allows the CNMI more freedom than the states?

Though perhaps hypocritical (or greedy, or duplicitous), rather than obscene, is the better word to use in regard to those CNMI legislators now so docilely feeding at the trough of the U.S. Congress despite their many protestations in the past that Congress has no right to interfere in matters internal to the CNMI.


After Scanlon made his plea is it any wonder that Ben and his Tan Family patrons are trying to cooperate with the Feds?

And as Tan Family members, who are Chinese Nationals, gave the max to George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004, this may have something to do with why the Bush WH shut down the Guam probe in 2002 (please check out Sherlock Google's recent Diary on the Guam investigation).

And the news from CNMI had this bit as well:

In a separate news article, the AP reported that the 2001 donations to Burns, a Montana Republican, included money directly from Abramoff and Northern Marianas garment magnate Willie Tan's company, Tan Holdings Corp.
In that same article, Eloy Inos, a corporate executive of Tan Holdings, was mentioned as donating $5,000 to Burns' political action committee.

Inos now serves on Fitial's transition committee.

Fitial, a former executive of Tan's, became speaker of the 12th Legislature largely through the help of DeLay's aides.

In a separate interview, Press Secreatry Peter Callaghan said the CNMI Attorney General's Office has provided federal authorities with all the documents they needed regarding the CNMI's previous transactions with Abramoff.


My guess is that DeLay has more to worry about over the Holidays than a certain Texas DA. And he will have plenty of company when you count the many nervous members of his party. Who are, of course, not so much worried for Tom as they are worried about their own connections to scandal (Jack and/or Duke).

Yet another GOP scandal front is opening. And, like the Tribal casino scandal, there are Abramoff emails to and from his client in the hands of Federal investigators. And a star witness for both.

When Ben was running for Speaker of the House in 1999 and then a failed 2001 run for Governor he had the support of some US Congressmen like Chris Cannon and John Doolittle. Expect them to join Ney, DeLay and Burns in the spotlight as this breaks open.

I'm looking forward to a great Holiday season with lots of Abramoff Scandal news everyday.

And is this the first report of a Federal investigation of Tom DeLay? I think it is.

This is going to get very interesting.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/7/20332/6168

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:38 PM
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9. I'm confused...this Ben Fitial was running for Speaker of House and Gov

in the Northern Marianas Islands or here in the US..? I couldn't understand how DeLay could install someone in a foreign countries government...or was it here and then Fitial moved to the Marianas? If it was here what state was he running in? Is he Chinese National or American?

:eyes: Sorry...it's such a web of intrigue with DeLay and Abramoff it's hard to keep it all straight!

-snip-
When Ben was running for Speaker of the House in 1999 and then a failed 2001 run for Governor he had the support of some US Congressmen like Chris Cannon and John Doolittle. Expect them to join Ney, DeLay and Burns in the spotlight as this breaks open.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:05 PM
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12. He was running for the Speaker of the House and Governor of
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 11:17 PM by Pirate Smile
the Commonwealth of North Marianas Islands (CNMI).

From Wikipedia - a little about the Commonwealth of North Marianas Islands:

The Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI) is a commonwealth in political union with the United States of America at a strategic location in the West Pacific Ocean. It consists of 14 islands about three-quarters of the way from Hawaii to the Philippines.

Together with Guam to the south, a United States territory, the Northern Mariana Islands make up the island arc of the Mariana Islands.

The economy of the Northern Marina Islands depends primarily on tourism, especially, from Japan, and the rapidly growing garment manufacturing sector. The Commonwealth also benefits from substantial subsidies and development assistance from the federal government of the United States.

The Northern Marina Islands had successfully exploited its position of being in a free trade area with the United States, while at the same time not being subject to the same labor laws as it. This means that the minimum wage in the Commonwealth is lower than in the US, and some other worker protections are weaker leading to lower production costs. In addition, a different immigration régime meant that a large number of Chinese migrant workers were employed in the Islands' garment trade.

Politics of ther Northern Mariana Islands takes place in a framework of a presidential representative democratic system, whereby the Governor is head of government, and of a pluriform multi-party system. The Northern Mariana Islands are a commonwealth in political union with the United States. Federal funds to the Commonwealth administered by the US Department of the Interior, Office of Insular Affairs. Executive power is exercised by the government. Legislative power is vested in both the government and the two chambers of parliament. The Judiciary is independent of the executive and the legislature. The Northern Mariana Islands and the United States eached a Covenant Agreement effective 4 November 1986. The Constitution of the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands became effective 1 January 1978.


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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:15 PM
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13. Here is a good piece by Mark Shields - "The real scandal of Tom DeLay"


The real scandal of Tom DeLay

Monday, May 9, 2005 Posted: 12:14 PM EDT (1614 GMT)

WASHINGTON, D.C. (Creators Syndicate) -- Forget the freebie trips across the Atlantic and the Pacific. Forget the casinos and the allegedly illicit contributions -- they represent only degrees of avarice.

To grasp the moral bankruptcy of the public Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, you only have to know about Frank Murkowski and Saipan.
Today, Frank Murkowki is the governor of Alaska, but from 1980 to 2002, he was a conservative Republican senator from Alaska.

-snip-
But as chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, Frank Murkowski became furious at the abusive sweatshop conditions endured by workers, overwhelmingly immigrants, in the U.S. territory of the Northern Mariana Islands, of which Saipan is the capital.

Because they were produced in a territory of the United States, garments traveled tariff-free and quota-free to the profitable U.S. market and were entitled to display the coveted "Made in the USA" label.

Among the manufacturers that had profited from the un-free labor market on the island were Tommy Hilfiger USA, Gap, Calvin Klein and Liz Claiborne.

Moved by the sworn testimony of U.S. officials and human-rights advocates that the 91 percent of the workforce who were immigrants -- from China, the Philippines, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh -- were being paid barely half the U.S. minimum hourly wage and were forced to live behind barbed wire in squalid shacks minus plumbing, work 12 hours a day, often seven days a week, without any of the legal protections U.S. workers are guaranteed, Murkowski wrote a bill to extend the protection of U.S. labor and minimum-wage laws to the workers in the U.S. territory of the Northern Marianas.

So compelling was the case for change the Alaska Republican marshaled that in early 2000, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed the Murkowski worker reform bill.

But one man primarily stopped the U.S. House from even considering that worker-reform bill: then-House Republican Whip Tom DeLay.

According to law firm records recently made public, lobbyist Jack Abramoff, paid millions to stop reform and keep the status quo, met personally at least two dozen times with DeLay on the subject in one two-year period. The DeLay staff was often in daily contact with Abramoff.

DeLay traveled with his family and staff over New Year's of 1997 on an Abramoff scholarship endowed by his client, the government of the territory, to the Marianas, where golf and snorkeling were enjoyed.

DeLay fully approved of the working and living conditions. The Texan's salute to the owners and Abramoff's government clients was recorded by ABC-TV News: "You are a shining light for what is happening to the Republican Party, and you represent everything that is good about what we are trying to do in America and leading the world in the free-market system"

Later, DeLay would tell The Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin that the low-wage, anti-union conditions of the Marianas constituted "a perfect petri dish of capitalism. It's like my Galapagos Island."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/09/real.delay/



And that was before we knew about the forced abortions in the sweatshops.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:46 PM
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14. Thanks for your replies with the extra information. Fascinating about
Murkowski fighting for a bill to help these people. Never thought of Murkowski as a human rights advocate.

Didn't know about the forced abortions, either. I hope DeLay goes down hard...this alone would seem to be enough...but I hope the rest lands him in jail for the rest of his pitiful life.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:36 AM
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15. Here is some more info - which includes the forced abortions.
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 12:37 AM by Pirate Smile

Pregnant garment workers on Saipan are forced to have abortions to keep their jobs.

ABC News
20/20 special investigation
April 1, 2000


Workers toil at sewing machines on the main assembly floor of a garment plant in Saipan. (credit: Charles Hanley/AP Photo)

A Senate subcommittee on Tuesday heard testimony that there may be what amounts to a Chinese or Korean labor camp on American territory.

On the Pacific island of Saipan, tens of thousands of workers churn out clothes each year for big American clothing companies, including The Gap and Ralph Lauren.

ABCNEWS Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross has found that legal loopholes allow foreign workers to be shipped in to face conditions that few Americans would tolerate.

Most of the workers are "young women from China who have been promised by recruiters that they are going to good jobs in America," Ross reported.

"Instead many find themselves kept behind barbed wire, in rat-infested labor camps, and put to work in huge Chinese- and Korean-owned garment factories--often under sweatshop conditions--making clothes for the American market," he said.

The clothes can legally be labeled "Made in the USA."

-snip-
"It has created a plantation economy, dependent on the massive importation on a continuing basis of low-paid, vulnerable, short-term indentured workers," said Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbitt. "That's not American."

Officials on Tuesday also confirmed what an ABCNEWS 20/20 investigation had found--that pregnant garment workers on Saipan are forced to have abortions to keep their jobs.

"When I told them I was pregnant, they told me to have an abortion," said Tu Xiao Mei, a woman who lost her job after refusing an abortion.

http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/sweatshops/saipan/abc040100.html



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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 05:36 AM
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22. WOW, right there we have the GOP supporting abortion AND the "Chi-Coms"..
who would have thunk it? State ordered abortion for these poor women, AND they're dealing with the "Chi-Coms" that they so forcefully railed against the Clinton administration of "supporting". As long as you're making money from it, the GOP's almighty god, it makes everything alright I guess? :eyes:
Wow, :wow: the GOP is dabbling in the very sins that made Bill Clinton public enemy number one for them and more. FORCED ABORTION? :wtf: Way to go, GOP. You've reached NEW lows in hypocrisy, something I didn't think possible. Every time I think the GOP can't possibly sink any lower, BAM, they dig the hole a little deeper.
I can't think of a more fitting way to celebrate MY 10,000th POST (shameless plug here) :party: than jumping all over the backs of the GOP, the party of "trust", "honor" and "moral clarity"! :puke:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:28 AM
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25. Research Katrina Leung- GOP Fundraiser Who Turned Out To Be Chinese Spy
GOP'ers even traveled with her.

AND she was fucking the same FBI agent who was harassing Gore by "investigating" bogus claims of taking money from Chinese.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:16 AM
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28. Kick................
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #22
31. right on, ClintonT, forced abortions from the GOP, party of "moral clarity
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:12 AM
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35. Congrats, Clinton!
:applause: 10,000 posts! :applause:
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:30 PM
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38. Relax, it's not like this is about the people.
The GOP doesn't care about people, when did they ever give the impression that they cared about people.

This is about money, that the GOP cares about. See it isn't personal, they really don't care who they use and or abuse.

Just how does Delay keep track of all these evil things that he does? He has to be an intelligent person, what a waste.

Congratulations on the 10,000th post.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:57 AM
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30. These Anti-Choice Pricks
Take a look fundi freaks!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:11 AM
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34. Forced abortions
That's what I want to hear his "righteous, God-fearing" supporters to hear. I want everyone in the country screaming for the bastard's head.

Don't forget, he told them that God had given him Terri Schiavo. Fucker.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:39 AM
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36. There is a goldmine of information for a kick-ass ad against Delay
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 11:41 AM by Pirate Smile
in 2005.

Let his constituents know who he is really supporting in DC. I'm sure they would be shocked and horrified.

Brian Ross of ABC News was the first on this issue. Here is an article of his from April 2005.


DeLay's Lavish Island Getaway
Embattled Lobbyist Arranged DeLay Trip


By BRIAN ROSS

April 6, 2005 — A Washington lobbyist under federal investigation for his lobbying activities arranged a lavish overseas trip to the island of Saipan for House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, over the New Year's holiday in 1997.
DeLay, his wife and daughter, and several aides, stayed for free at a beachfront resort.

The DeLay trip to the South Pacific island, originally reported by a "20/20" investigation, was part of an effort by former aide Jack Abramoff to stop legislation aimed at cracking down on sweatshops and sex shops in the American territory, which is known as the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.

-snip-
After touring one garment plant, DeLay praised Saipan at the New Year's Eve party attended by top factory owners.

"You represent everything that is good about what we are trying to do in America," DeLay said at the time to his audience, which included Saipan officials and factory owners.

Later, according to a recording made by a human rights investigator posing as a potential customer, one of the prominent factory owners said that DeLay had promised to stop the reform laws.

"Do you know what Tom told me?" Willie Tan said. "He said, 'Willie, if they elect me majority whip, I make the schedule of the Congress, and I'm not going to put it on the schedule.' So Tom told me, 'Forget it, Willie. No chance.' "

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=647725&page=2



Tie all of this to the entire House GOP.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #14
40. I know...it does kind of boggle the mind, doesn't it?
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blue4barb Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:01 PM
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5. Truth serum would be very helpful.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Welcome to DU!
You'll be a fine addition!


:rofl:


:hi:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:24 PM
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7. Franken is all over this in his new book. Not this new witness stuff, of
course, but he gives a VERY good overview of the Abramoff/Reed/Norquist/DeLay axis of sleaze, before the more recent indictments and the murder in FLA and now this.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:44 PM
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11. Wow, another scene in this too-good-to-be-true movie
A far off exotic locale, in a tropical Pacific island, yet!

This story has everything, I wish I were a screenwriter!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:39 AM
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16. This Abramoff scandal is so hot someone is bound to get suicided.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:50 AM
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17. "The Delay staff was often in daily contact with Abramhoff."
I'll bet they'll be in daily contact with federal investigators now. But not by choice. :nopity:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:44 AM
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19. oh yeah ba-be
:woohoo: This is going to be GREAT! I have waited and waited and waited for the Mariana story to hit again. There won't be any talk about any guest worker program after people see what happened over there.
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:50 AM
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20. Found this interesting
site that looks like it is written by someone living in Saipan (last update July 2005)

http://www.saipansucks.com/about.htm

It mentions Tom and Jack and their exploits about halfway down the page

<snip>

Two champions of the Saipan garment manufacturing industry are U.S. Congressman Tom DeLay (Cockroach, Sugar Land) and his long-time cohort Jack Abramoff (Scumbag, District of Columbia), now under grand jury and U.S. congressional investigation. In exchange for millions of dollars of CNMI money (read, U.S. taxpayer money), Abramoff hooked DeLay up with Willie Tan, the principal Saipan garment manufacturer. A 1999 segment on the TV news magazine 20/20 revealed Tan’s own impression of the importance of his relationship with DeLay when Tan was shown on tape boasting to the undercover investigator posing as a potential investor that there would be “no problem” with Saipan maintaining its favorable relationship with the U.S. because of DeLay’s protection. That protection included preserving the $3.05 minimum wage and local control over immigration, which permit Saipan to import Asian garment workers and pay them what are essentially slave wages. And because the CNMI is an American territory, manufactured goods could be imported to the Mainland with “Made in the United States” tags, thus (mis)leading American consumers to believe they were actually buying items made in the U.S. and, in theory, subject to U.S. wage and labor laws. Notwithstanding the efforts of California Congressman George Miller and others to resolve the abuses blatantly being carried out on U.S. soil, DeLay had assured Tan and Abramoff that any such odious legislation would never see the light of day.

It hasn’t.

For more on DeLay (Cockroach, Sugar Land) and Saipan, take a look at the following web site, published on May 15, 2005 . . http://dailykos.com/story/2005/5/15/11429/0369

In fact, the CNMI “guest worker” program is thought to be the model for Bush’s proposal that the United States implement a federal guest worker policy, providing people from Mexico, Central and South America the rare privilege of working in the U.S. with no benefits, no rights and, inevitably, no hope. Slavery is alive and well in America, and in the dreams of greedy exploiters throughout the land.


I found this site just surfing around trying to educate myself regarding CNMI.

Looks like everybody around the world hates Delay :rofl:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #20
32. "everybody in the world hates Delay" and with good reason. This cockroach
is being revealed for the scumbag he truly is
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:54 AM
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21. That's the way the beans crumble!
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 02:55 AM by upi402
spill...

cookie???

:popcorn:
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:15 AM
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23. Kick!!! - Recommended
There is a good documentary out about the terrible sweatshop conditions on CNMI, but I can't remember the name - one of the former workers helped make the film, and she has moved to the U.S. and is active in this cause. Perhaps someone here knows about the film.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:41 PM
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39. kick
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:17 AM
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24. Anyone have an intelligent guess why they're cooperating?
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:52 AM
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26. A non intelligent guess.
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 09:54 AM by gordianot
The whole Abramoff scandal is going to rock the GOP to the core. Since this was probably a scam created by intelligence agencies plausible denial contingencies are in effect. Blame some underlings such a Delay and investigations (maybe) will not go higher up the chain of authority with people such as Cheney.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:03 AM
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33. not a bad guess-witness Cheney going to recent Delay fundraiser to
help him out. One liar/human rights abuser helping another.
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bostonbabs Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:02 AM
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27. I have been waiting for this story...Thankyou!!!!
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:19 AM
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29. Never mind Plamegate......
This is the story that will bring down the pukes in numbers. I wish tweety would latch on to this scandal like he did the Plame story and run with it everyday.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:22 PM
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37. We need Olberman to cover this story.
Since a new witness has flipped in the North Marinaras Islands, it is a new story he can cover and he could give the full, sordid background. It has been verified by the mainstream press so that shouldn't be an issue.

Actually, like someone else wrote in this thread, it would be good for Tweety to jump on this as well.

Let's send it out to them.
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