"THE FUCKING SECRETARY OF DEFENSE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT"

Rummy Dum Dum


I don't know what's more disturbing - that Rumsfeld is lying when he claims that he doesn't know of anybody who made cost, casualty, and length predictions about the war or that THE FUCKING SECRETARY OF DEFENSE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAKE COST, CASUALTY, AND LENGTH PREDICTIONS ABOUT THE WAR. That isn't to say those predictions would have to be perfect, but at least you would, you know, make them for planning purposes.

War, you betcha. Let's do it! We'll worry about the details later. SHOCK AND AWE BABY!
http://atrios.blogspot.com/

Rumsfeld Lies About Pre-War Predictions: “You Can Take That To The Bank”
Yesterday on PBS’ Newshour, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld said no administration official made any predictions about the length or cost of the war in Iraq:

I was very careful. I never predicted any number of deaths or the cost or the length because I’ve looked at a lot of wars, and anyone who tries to do that is going to find themselves wrong, flat wrong…I don’t know anybody who had any reasonable expectations about the number or the length of the war or the cost of the war. I just don’t — no one I know went out and said these are how those three metrics ought to be considered. And you can take it to the bank.

The truth is, Rumsfeld and other top administration officials made predictions on all three metrics. You can take that to the bank –

with examples of lies & more at:
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/rumsfeld-predictions/

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They're quite competent in seeing to their interests, regardless of any conflicts wrt other interests they're supposed to be looking after.

So we don't do that.

I just hope to God the rumors about Lieberman getting tapped for the post aren't true...or if they are, he has the good sense to say, "NO THANKS".

Puts a Reep-apointed cannon fodder in his place to finish out his term. Opens up his seat to a real CT democrat to be elected in '06, potentially. And as long as Joe is no longer an "elected Democratic official" we'll have fun pissing on him as he fumbles one impossible Bush edict after another.

Just looking on the bright side, is all.

If they are thinking about replacing Rumsfeld it's so they can blame him and the rightwingers will all jump on it too hoping Rumsfeld will get away. Whoever remembers Wolfowitz now days and how wrong he was about everything?

And Heaven knows, God only speaks truth to bush. :sarcasm:

the Department of Defense was known as the Department of War. Rumsfeld would have been the Secretary of War.

A much better title for him I think.

I do not think Liberman has the proper nature required for this position.

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They said it would not be a long engagement. Two years tops.

Feb. 7, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, to U.S. troops in Aviano, Italy: "It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-03-31-then-and-now-usat_x.htm

http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/iraqquotes_web.htm

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz: “There’s a lot of money to pay for this that doesn’t have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people…and on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years…We’re dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.”

My guess is all those private Bush friendly contractors like Halliburton. While we're going in debt they're going up.

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It doesn't matter what he says to the rest of us, that's just PR anyway.

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for claiming that the war would cost over 200 billion dollars. They also fired Shinzeki for saying they would need 500,000 troops to get the job done right. When Bush had the nerve to claim in a press conference that he would make no decisions on his own, that he would listen to his Generals I wanted to dive through the TV and punch his lights out. This administration and all the people who support it remind me of my first wife. Just couldn't stand to be wrong. Will say anything and do anything to be "right". You could not possibly win an argument with her/them because when you use the facts and debate them into a corner they will just pull some shit out of thin air to make themselves right. I wish I could divorce the administration.

http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/iraqquotes_web.htm

On September 15th 2002, White House economic advisor Lawrence Lindsay estimated the high limit on the cost to be 1-2% of GNP, or about $100-$200 billion. Mitch Daniels, Director of the Office of Management and Budget subsequently discounted this estimate as “very, very high” and stated that the costs would be between $50-$60 billion


Paul O'Neill, Lawrence Lindsey Fired

Aired December 6, 2002 - 18:00 ET

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0212/06/mlld.00.html

and look shit up when I am going to make a post like that.... :toast: These assholes fired everybody who was right about the war. How sad is that.

about WMD's. Even the most decorated general told Bush he was wrong and they didn't even listen to him!

that when Rumsfield offered his resignation to Bush twice, as he stated, he did it with the same sincerity that Cheney had when he was hired by Bush to look the nation over for the best Vice-Presidential candidate in the land.

I don't think so with that. I think Rummy just told that for the press. Iraq is one of his babies. Go to pbs.org and try to find the film "Rumsfeld's War." In this film it lays out how involved Rummy is and how he told Bush not to worry about anything with the "war" but to let him.

listening to Bernie Ward's show and he had the guy on there who wrote the book "Losing Iraq" and this guy was apart of all the pre-war intelligence planning and everything. He said that Colin Powell wrote a 1,000 page document on EVERYTHING that could happen and they ignored it and probably him. Powell predicted everything that is happening now back than before they started going public with the war. And remember Rumsfeld went on "Meet the Press" and said they knew EXACTLY where those WMD's were. In Baghdad. And Poppy Bush told that taking Baghdad was key to bringing down Iraq.