Just had a little chat with a repub in my office...

This guy cracks a joke the other day about he will become a democrat now that he's retiring.

I gave a mild droll laugh and said, "you know, you republicans have it great because you have a real stand up guy in tom delay, yeah he stands up for mug shots."

He shut up.

Just a few minutes ago, the same guy comes to me and saids, "you didn't like my little joke, the other day."

I said, "it's seems that republicans only like social security when they retire but fight tooth and nail to strip it before they retire."

Then he goes on with, "well it won't pay my car payment."

I said it's because it's only suppose to supplement you and your savings.

Then he says, "it won't supplement shit now that there is nothing left"

I replied, "Actually that's wrong but for the money that has been removed, you can thank old georgie' boy for that by pissing it away on all his failed projects and misadventures."

He shut up after that one.

Interesting enough, this was all talked about in a very civil and moderate tone.

I found it interesting that his former stance in defense of fearless leader* had vanished. He had this tone of being a little resigned.

They say the words but they don't have nearly enough conviction as they once did. I find this hopeful.

Little by little, step by step, repubs are waking up to the fact that moron* is all talk and very little action, if any at all.

Like they say here in Texas, "all hat and no cattle".

Not sticking up for George?

It's a sacrifice, but you should help him remain a Republican.

the military doesn't force you to take your retirement (retainer) check either; you have to request permission to retire apply for it. About five years back a neanderthal shipmate of mine who hated Clinton and loved everything bush was approaching his retirement date. I asked him if he was ready for retirement. He said buy me a beer and watch my taillights head out the gate. I asked him if he had his retirement application in order. He said he didn't know he had to apply. He had 20+ years in the Navy and I had to walk him through the retirement application process. And he still votes.

After all, isn't Prethident Bush always telling us that we must sacrifice?

of Social Security. Obviously a very well trained Republican. Encourage him to become a democrat upon retirement and work to prop up programs he will need with a reduced income (I'm assuming he'll get a pension.) Tell him the only way that will occur is if we put Democrats in office. Deep down, he'll know you are right.

If your company is republican at heart, he'll get a watch upon retirement and shown the door. Just what he has supported over the years.

the fucker becomes the fuckee, it ain't always so much fun. By his retirement, he has gone from being in the GOP group, to a TARGET of the GOP group. He realizes he is about to be dumped on the ice floe and pushed out to sea...it never bothered him, though, when he did it to others.

Ah, self-interest! It has a way of waking up even the most obtuse of fools!

she lives in Idaho-she asked me when are you going to visit? I told her that I'm not fond of Idaho and hate visiting there. Wished she'd move closer to me. Told her everytime I go to visit, I felt like I was in a homogenous white void-hardly no diversity. Last time my hubby and I were there, we were in the mall in Twin Falls and a hispanic young man was walking with two white young men behind him shouting racial slurs at him. It's like some parts of Idaho (maybe most) are truly KKK! And most, really love Bush---she said things are changing, there are more people questioning their great God!!! I told her that people are starting to hurt, so now they are starting to question him. It's all about them!!!!

want to come.

1) It's even redder than where I currently live and there are even more nutjob fundies.
2) Two syllables: Bran-son. Ick...I don't like country "music" :puke: I have a couple of shirts she bought me that say "Branson" on them, but the few times I've worn them, I've felt odd. As a classically-trained vocalist and perpetual music student, Branson seems like a cultural black hole. Yes, this is just opinion. There are a few country songs that don't make me nauseous, but actually listening to a country station or watching CMT that long makes me too ill to enjoy them. :D

The Simpsons.

They make those kinds of comments because they think they can get away with saying it and having no one challenge them on it (they are especially emboldened in Texas....I know, I grew up there).

When we stop being doormats and start speaking up in a public area, especially when we're succinct and civil, they retreat.

(Unless you're a professor; then they either slink around in secret to put red stars on your office door or stalk you so they can beat the crap out of you.)

A few of the strong defenders of Bush, that I have talked with many times online, are taking a resigned posture a lot...it started this past may, or so, when gas was skyrocketing, and its been building momentum since then. Most of the strongest Bush supporters i have debated with online, and in real life, have taken the silent approach, and have stopped beating their chests in defense of Bush...

there are many Bush supporters--I had one woman at the store tell me she couldn't believe food prices have gone up so much--I told her that everything goes up when energy prices go up--in order to grow the food, you need energy. Manufacturing, you need energy. It's like she never connected any of it.

They just want food, they don't care where or how it came to be.

I remember the water shortage here. People in Northern California were conserving and we were the water shed. They interviewed a man down in Southern California with a pool--he said he didn't care where the water came from as long as when he turned on the faucet it was there. Such ignorance!

since the ideal Republican is someone who gets money, but does not work for it. A retiree who has built up a fair amount of wealth, has a house that's paid for, and gets a halfway decent pension is much more likely to benefit from Republican policies than a young working person is.

Not the brighted bulb in the lot. Has smarts but no common sense.

until this summer when he met some real republicans. We went to high school together and hooked up again a few years ago after many years of going our own ways.
His life had fallen apart, his exwife had just about destroyed him, I won't go into it, it's brutal.
Anyway, he met another woman, they got married had a child, somewhere along the line he was born again and went to church regularly, and started voting repuke.
Since they live some distance away, we didn't see them except for a couple of times a year, we were at their place before the fiasco last year and he was expressing doubts about georgie* then.
I planted a few georgie* is a moron seeds and left it to his wife to correct him.
Our relationship cooled a bit after that, I haven't wanted to be around anyone who voted repuke, but, we went to see them for our christmas visit last weekend.
In the early part of May our thirty year high school reunion was held not far from where they live (Overland Park Ks) very rich and very conservative.
He went to the reunion and rubbed elbows with some very monied elite snobs, these were heriditary reukes, priveledged and looked down on the born again repukes.
While we were visiting, he was telling me about them, and I noticed the religious trappings were gone, and his tone became very hard when talking about our former classmates
I don't care what his religious beliefs are, but I'm pretty certain his days as a repuke are over.

He was rubbing elbows with the muckity mucks but when it came down to the brass tacks and things started going to hell, the fad wore off and reality set it.

Also known as the groupie mentality.