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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:49 AM
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LAT: French warned US in 2001 & 2002 about bogus Niger Uranium claims
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 06:29 AM by Nothing Without Hope
This is new. Significantly, the report says that the investigation by the French of the French-controlled Niger Uranium mines WAS REQUESTED BY THE USA.

So Joseph Wilson's report wasn't the only requested report that was ignored. One more reason for the Bushies to hate the French!

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-niger11dec11,0,3678379.story?track=tothtml
December 11, 2005
latimes.com : National News
THE WORLD

French Told CIA of Bogus Intelligence


The foreign spy service warned the U.S. various times before the war that there was no proof Iraq sought uranium from Niger, ex-officials say.

By Tom Hamburger, Peter Wallsten and Bob Drogin, Times Staff Writers

(snip)

The previously undisclosed exchanges between the U.S. and the French, described in interviews last week by the retired chief of the French counterintelligence service and a former CIA official, came on separate occasions in 2001 and 2002.

The French conclusions were reached after extensive on-the-ground investigations in Niger and other former French colonies, where the uranium mines are controlled by French companies, said Alain Chouet, the French former official. He said the French investigated at the CIA's request.

Chouet's account was "at odds with our understanding of the issue," a U.S. government official said. The U.S. official declined to elaborate and spoke only on condition that neither he nor his agency be named.

However, the essence of Chouet's account — that the French repeatedly investigated the Niger claim, found no evidence to support it, and warned the CIA — was extensively corroborated by the former CIA official and a current French government official, who both spoke on condition of anonymity.

(snip)

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:15 AM
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1. worth at least one reply, I believe. n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:18 AM
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2. i recall reading lots of this from La Repubblica--a few months ago. That
was when the Italian gov. denied involvement. But the story blew over in a day or two.


......Before speaking with The Times last week, Chouet had told part of his story to La Repubblica, a Rome newspaper, prompting Italian investigators to resume their inquiry and seek Chouet's testimony.

In the U.S., the FBI recently reopened its inquiry into the documents in part because it had won access to new information.

Wilson, the former U.S. ambassador sent to Niger by the CIA to investigate the allegations, said he believed that his trip was inspired by the forged documents. He said the briefing he received at the CIA referred to a sales agreement between Iraq and Niger that sounded like the forged documents.

Bush attributed the African uranium information to British intelligence in his 2003 address: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:27 AM
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6. It's so very clear now that this was a deliberate lie. The evidence keeps
building up and up - they had the truth from all directions and they chose the lie.

It's blood for oil as we always believed.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:20 AM
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3. glad to see this story in a large mainstream newspaper!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:20 AM
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4. nominated ---spread this far and wide.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:21 AM
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5. we need to constantly remind people the reasons for this admininstrations
corruption and greed.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:28 AM
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7. thanks for your support. I'm cutting out now for a number of hours.
I hope others see this story too.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:31 AM
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8. good chronology here (also infamous 16 words).


http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp11092005.html

........January 28: President Bush asserts that "the British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa" during his State of the Union address.

January 29: Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld states in a press briefing that Iraq "recently was discovered seeking significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

January 29: IAEA head Mohamed ElBaradei tells Washington Post: "Niger denied , Iraq denied it, and we haven't seen any contracts." Also discounts the aluminum tubes claim.

.............

February 5. Cheney staff insists he "link Iraq directly to the 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington" and include the allegation that Mohammed Atta had met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence officer in 2001. Powell's staff rejects much of the content of the drafted speech.
At one point, Powell reportedly says, "I'm not reading this. This is bullshit."........
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:40 AM
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9. This should be in LBN
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:58 AM
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10. I agree
why isn't this in LBN? This is yet another bombshell at bushco.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:03 AM
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11. I didn't put it in LBN because I find threads get more attention in GD
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 07:10 AM by Nothing Without Hope
And with 5 votes necessary for real visibility, I'm trying for it in this forum.

If the rules allowed, I would post a heads-up post in LBN, but it would be locked immediately. Let's hope that it gets the 5 votes here and that it is seen.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:17 AM
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13. kick and recommended
Need one more
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:26 AM
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14. Thanks, Swampy!
And now I'm off until late today. :hi:
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:04 AM
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12. The Bush Cabal
was too busy munching on "Freedom Fries" to notice.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:57 AM
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15. "Wilson's report wasn't the only... report that was ignored"...
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 07:58 AM by slor
In addition to the French, there were also 2 other Americans, including a Marine Lt. General, that were ignored as well.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 08:02 AM
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16. How much proof is needed before it is accepted that Bush, Cheney..
and the rest of the crew deliberately LIED us into this war. It seems no matter what evidence is revealed they still get a pass.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:25 PM
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17. kick n/t
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:27 PM
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18. The Story That Didn’t Run
Here’s the piece that ‘60 Minutes’ killed for its report on the Bush Guard documents

By Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball
Newsweek
Updated: 5:24 p.m. ET Sept. 22, 2004


Sept. 22 - In its rush to air its now discredited story about President George W. Bush’s National Guard service, CBS bumped another sensitive piece slated for the same “60 Minutes” broadcast: a half-hour segment about how the U.S. government was snookered by forged documents purporting to show Iraqi efforts to purchase uranium from Niger.

The journalistic juggling at CBS provides an ironic counterpoint to the furor over apparently bogus documents involving Bush’s National Guard service. One unexpected consequence of the network’s decision was to wipe out a chance—at least for the moment—for greater public scrutiny of a more consequential forgery that played a role in building the Bush administration’s case to invade Iraq.

A team of “60 Minutes” correspondents and consulting reporters spent more than six months investigating the Niger uranium documents fraud, CBS sources tell NEWSWEEK. The group landed the first ever on-camera interview with Elisabetta Burba, the Italian journalist who first obtained the phony documents, as well as her elusive source, Rocco Martino, a mysterious Roman businessman with longstanding ties to European intelligence agencies.

Although the edited piece never ended up identifying Martino by name, the story, narrated by “60 Minutes” correspondent Ed Bradley, asked tough questions about how the White House came to embrace the fraudulent documents and why administration officials chose to include a 16-word reference to the questionable uranium purchase in President Bush’s 2003 State of the Union speech.

But just hours before the piece was set to air on the evening of Sept. 8, the reporters and producers on the CBS team were stunned to learn the story was being scrapped to make room for a seemingly sensational story about new documents showing that Bush ignored a direct order to take a flight physical while serving in the National Guard more than 30 years ago.



http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6073449/site/newsweek/
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:48 PM
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19. And the story was KILLED instead of delayed. You KNOW there was a
phone call from the WH.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:58 PM
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20. this needs more visibility - it's significant, another solid piece of
evidence proving that the Bush Administration LIED about the WMDs. So far, relatively few have seen it.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:38 AM
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21. kick - this needs to be widely known n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:55 AM
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22. ***A later dupe thread on this important LAT story in the LBN Forum:***

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1979837
thread title (12/11 LBN): French Told CIA of Bogus Intelligence

This story needs much more exposure. When this thread also falls off the Greatest page, it should be reposted in GD or GD-P, with links to these two earlier threads. Perhaps there will be a story update by then.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 08:13 AM
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23. Here is What I Thought
when I read it in the paper yesterday. The US owes France a big apology. They have been the butt of jokes for months, & the Right just hates them. They tried to warn us that the Niger info was false! And yet, we treat them like crap. I doubt that the Right-wingers will ever apologize, though. They never can admit a mistake. Stupid, arrogant jerks.

Tammy
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:37 AM
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24. You're right - the right-wingers will not even admit the the French
did warn about the Niger documents and also kept the secret abouit that warning all this time when it would have embarrassed the Bush Administration.

The Bushies are turning to Eastern Europe for their playmates these days. That's where the secret CIA prisons are, and that's where they'll be doing deals if they can. They can rule there without pesky interference over so-called "international law."
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 10:15 AM
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25. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:24 PM
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26. kick n/t
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