Kucinich wants Iraqi vote on withdrawal

http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20051209-054810-1807r
Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, wants the Iraqis to decide whether the United States military should be withdrawn from Iraq.

"Congressman Kucinich believes that Iraq, as a free nation and a blossoming democracy, should have the right of self determination," said his spokesman Doug Gordon.

Kucinich is working on a resolution to be introduced on the floor of Congress "soon" that would make it the sense of Congress that the United States would support an Iraqi referendum on the future of the U.S. occupation of the country.


A January 2005 poll conducted by Abu Dhabi TV/Zogby International showed that 82 percent of Sunni Arabs and 69 percent of Shiite Arabs favor the withdrawal of U.S. troops either immediately or once an elected government is in place.

It's time to see which Dems are willing to step up to the plate - to meet the will of their own constituencies and the people of Iraq rather then the whorish needs of the corporate backers that funded their campaigns.

http://counterpunch.org/cockburn12102005.html Your video link is worthy of a thread.

It might unite the Iraqis behind the new government and give it credibility. Bush may even want to be asked to leave by the new goverment because that could be spun as respecting their sovereigty instead of cutting and running.

me to believe we have no intention of ever leaving. When we gave back the green zone a short ago where did we move our center of operations, offshore, I doubt it. just my two cents worth

However, if the Iraqi goverment loudly and aggressively insists we leave I think he may. Bush thought it was going to be easy and now that it isn't I do wonder if he would get out if he gets the chance to do it gracefully. Of course, my opinion is no better than two cents as well.

...close the US bases. They tell him: "you don't want to be the first President to lose a war, do you?" Then he reaches for his antacids--or goes into the bathroom before he soils himself.

a good man.

:applause:

for an Iraqi referendum on immediate withdrawal of American Troops, that would be heaven-sent. I hope he can do it.

listen to the polls it seems. GOP would never allow it to the floor of course.
Mind you, I'd be extatic if they do vote for the withdrawal.

Sunni Muslims and Shiite Muslims would be the proper terminology. Many, many Iraqis are NOT "Arabs." 5% are ethnic Assyrians and 25% are ethnic Kurds. The conjunction of the sectarian terms "Sunni" and Shi'ite" (within Islam) with the ethnic term "Arab" creates a misapprehension.

Their editorial 'style' is very heavily driven by their ownership.

We need to let the new government which will be elected next Thursday be self-determining. They can decide whether to hold a vote in Parliament on the issue, or have a referendum. If they ask us to leave, of course we must leave.

Of course we all already know how the Iraqis feel but this is a way to force the congress to acknowledge the truth of the matter.

"Of 1,300 suspected insurgents arrested over the past five months in and around Ramadi, none has been a foreigner...Their family and tribal honour has been impugned if we're on their ground. They're almost duty bound to fight."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/12/04/wirq04.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/12/04/ixportal.html

And then they need to take a look at this graph and ask Bush and Rumsfeld to explain how we are making progress...


All we are saying....is give peace a chance....

--Kucinich was not a "real" candidate last year. Does being right about Iraq not count for anything?