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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:07 PM Original message |
Poll question: Amazing how truly divided DUers are over the Tookie issue |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. onLy freepers think in bLack & white terms! |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I guess you are right, but I thought DUers would be against DP |
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firefox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Sounds like a black and white statement |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Sometimes things ARE black & white. Living or dying. |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. Rev. Jesse Jackson is on with Rita on MSNBC |
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AgadorSparticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
67. I guess you forgot about Terry Shiavo. Things aren't black and white. |
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gordonlamb (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Well, that's not true... |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. That's because he * is EVIL |
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gordonlamb (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. ...and that proves my point right there. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:29 AM Response to Reply #29 |
66. No, your point is not proven |
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gordonlamb (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 01:14 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. I don't know what you mean |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. death penalty |
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MrMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Damn, DUers are just like other people |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't think you are asking the right question |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. Very True, I see a bunch of folks are struggling with it... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Other: Not okay with the DP, but okay with no celebrity exemptions. |
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Booster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. This is my opinion also. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. The death penalty really disturbs me. |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. The way I assess this: Over the next 10/20 years or so, will |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It's not the benefits or disadvantages, it's the integrity |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. Your first sentence is pivotal...because it can easily be used to augment |
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yankeedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. So keeping him alive is about money? |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's the sanctimonious certainty... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. Exactly! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'd rather discuss the death penalty when other, more encompassing things |
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tlsmith1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm Torn Over This... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. I'm anti-Tookie. I just don't know if I'm pro- or anti- DP. |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. ? How do you mean? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I'm not conflicted about Tookie. He's an evil bastard. |
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yankeedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
12. Is there a third choice |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Dead-on. nt |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Agreed, well said. |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Damn good post! |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. I agree that .. |
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yankeedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I think I understand |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Oh .. that makes me sad thinking about it that way. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
69. well, that would put you in the "not ok" column |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
18. Something else to consider |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I think the lurkers are just plain horrified. |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Good point... |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
70. that thing about the majority of the country |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
23. Against killing even the most heinous killer. More expensive than life in |
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gordonlamb (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. um...I see your point but... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. The logic is simple. I blind you, somebody blinds me for blinding you, |
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gordonlamb (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. But that has nothing to do... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. You need to look more closely. See? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. I know that some might support the DP, but "Snuff him! Fry him! Cook him!" |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
31. The man on my TV just said it takes 20/25 minutes to kill him...Is |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
32. I'm sorry |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Can't argue with what you said... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. But he's defenseless now. |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I would not have been upset if he received clemency |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. That's an argument against the DP - not an argument for making a special |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. I'm not looking for a special exemption. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Unless the governer is going to pardon or grant clemency to all on death |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Well, one less needless murder at the hands of our society |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. No - I don't believe in special exemptions for celebrities. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. It is. It's wrong for him, and it's wrong for everyone. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I'd consider it the same as not giving a traffic ticket to an actor. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Well, I agree with that. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. But since Tookie - just like everyone else on death row - HAS gotten this |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
65. But killing Tookie is |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:53 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. I very honestly am not seeking his death |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
34. Supreme Court just said NO!!! NO surprise of course. |
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TrueAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
41. Simple Is as Simple Does n/t |
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
45. it's disgusting |
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TwentyFive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
49. They should use his execution to raise money for a good cause. That helps! |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
53. I suppose if we have to.... |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:50 AM Response to Reply #53 |
71. yeah, or someone who started a war... n/t |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
58. To me this arguement is less about Tookie and more about us as a society |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
59. Well, when I really ponder it |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. Well....looks like Tookie Supporters not to Die are winning by pretty good |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 11:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Kick........this poll reflects something different from what's going on |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
68. You're perpetuating the divide with a false binary. |
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SoCalDemGrrl (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
73. I am basically against the death penalty, but |
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tyedyeto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
75. I voted not OK not because it's one particular person |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
76. If my little 7-year-old neice was murdered I would want vengeance. |
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