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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:09 PM
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Exclusive: REID to Vote AGAINST Patriot Act & SUPPORT Feingold Filibuster
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 12:51 PM by kpete
Exclusive: Senator Reid will vote against Patriot Act and against cloture, supporting Feingold filibuster move, aide tells Raw Story

http://www.rawstory.com/

UPDATE:
Reid to oppose Patriot Act, will join efforts to block bill
John Byrne

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) will vote against the updated Patriot Act and will join with senators who are seeking to block the bill from coming up for a vote, RAW STORY has learned.

Reid has told aides he will vote against cloture -- a Senate procedure which requires that 60 senators support a bill being brought before the Senate before it is brought to a final vote. In essence, voting against cloture means supporting a filibuster.

"Senator Reid has several concerns including the National Security letters, the library provision, and some of the habeas corpus aspects which have nothing to do with terrorism," an aide told RAW STORY.

Sen Russ Feingold (D-WI) has previously said he will filibuster the revised version of the act. In voting against cloture, Reid will be supporting Sen. Feingold's efforts.
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Reid_to_oppose_Patriot_Act_will_1214.html
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:12 PM
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Oh, I hope this is true!! Stand together or fall apart..... n/t
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:12 PM
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1. Hope the other Senate Dems take the hint
Obviously Joe-mentum won't :eyes:
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:35 PM
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54. Holy Joe won't support the filibuster
unless we tell him the Patriot Act will enable the Bushies to persecute Jews, just like Hitler did. Then we just might get him to change his mind.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:12 PM
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2. Looking better
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:56 PM
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33. Give 'em hell, Harry!
Such a thrill to see our leaders leading!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:14 PM
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3. REC'd: Crucial for Dems to force GOP nuke option & see if they back down
The nuclear option is lose/lose for GOP.

If they use it and stick to it, they look like bullies who favor power over the democratic process.

If they decide not to use it after all, their bluff will be called and they will be seen as the increasing impotent thugs they are.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:19 PM
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5. the nuclear option is not relevant.
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 12:19 PM by bowens43
It is only available for judicial nominations.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:50 PM
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9. I remembered that after I posted. Made good news better in my head
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:59 PM
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13. I'm sure that that showdown
will come.....
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:12 PM
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53. Right, not to mention, unconstitutional.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:15 PM
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4. This is more reason why we have to fight for the democrat majority
Reid may be pro-life (he has a dismal NARAL rating) but damnit, he's my guy for majority leader. I'll vote for a DLCer knowing that ultimately I'll help get Harry Reid the majority leadership. He's earned it!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:17 PM
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22. Same here
And what's important is whether he'll uphold Roe V Wade if it ever came to that. In my personal life I'm pro-life (and more than just like the fundies) but I am pro-choice.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:23 PM
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6. Positioning for battle!!!!
Salute to them both! :patriot:
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:25 PM
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7. Reduction in our ' Reichstag Fire Decree' is a sign that..(history lesson)
progress is being made in support of civil liberities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:35 PM
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8. Send Reid a message of support here:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 01:17 PM
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14. Done thanks!
:hi:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:20 PM
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23. What did you put for subject??
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:24 PM
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24. I actually decided to call.
:hi:
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:10 PM
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19. Done!
...along with a link to this thread!
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:53 PM
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10. Also from Raw Story
Republicans who oppose the bill are doing so on libertarian grounds, saying the government should respect Americans' right to privacy. Among Republicans opposing the revised version of the bill are Sens. Larry Craig (R-ID), Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Sen. John Sununu (R-NH).
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Reid_to_oppose_Patriot_Ac...
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:54 PM
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11. Way to go, Harry
These two deserve our unqualified support. Finally a couple of Senate Dems with some principles.

:patriot:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:55 PM
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12. one more vote people!
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 01:19 PM
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15. K&R
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 01:20 PM by ultraist
That's the kind of fighting spirit we need more of.

:kick:
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 01:26 PM
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16. This is a winner for DEMS
True (paleo) Conservatives distrust government power and detest the Patriot act. It's only the sheeple of the Republican party who want the government to have power.

This is a good wedge issue for us.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:04 PM
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17. Please vote this up!!! K&R Give 'em hell, Harry! This is great! eom
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:09 PM
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18. Please --- when is this vote?
Chimp is on CSPAN right now.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:11 PM
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20. This is great!
Go Reid!!!!
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Michigander4Dean Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:15 PM
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21. Reid has something Daschle lacked: BALLS
Thanks Harry.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:24 PM
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25. Every show of strength will gain points! (whatever the issue)
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 02:25 PM by pat_k
Filibuster! Filibuster!

With every show of strength, Dems will gain points, especially among white males.

It doesn't even matter what the issue is. As Clinton says, Americans tend to go for "Strong and Wrong" over "Weak and Right."

Could the Dems finally be getting it?
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:29 PM
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26. Cool!
This will be interesting if it happens. Frist is threatening the nuclear option re: Alito, but I think he only means to apply that to judicial appointments. I wonder if he'll try it for the Patriot Act.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:08 PM
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27. Fabulous news!
I have a lot of concerns too Senator Reid. Thank you for standing with Russ Feingold and for the rights of Americans on this!
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:12 PM
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28. PATRIOT ACT UPDATE By Russ Feingold
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 04:15 PM by kpete
PATRIOT ACT UPDATE
By Russ Feingold

Yesterday there was a press conference opposing the Patriot Act reauthorization bill headlining Bob Barr and the ACLU, an impromptu debate between Senator Specter and me, and announcements from Senators Reid and Leahy that they will oppose cloture. Today, the Senate may formally take up the conference report. Sen. Frist announced on the floor this morning that he will seek a time agreement to limit debate on the Patriot Act in the Senate. I will object to that. Extended debate on this reauthorization bill is needed.


I plan to speak on the floor at length at some point today. I will try to give you a heads up on the timing of that speech.

This morning, the SAFE Act cosponsors released a "Dear Colleague" letter, laying out our objections to the conference report and pledging to vote against cloture. You'll see some new names on this letter - including Republican Senator Chuck Hagel.

Attorney General Gonzales has a Patriot Act op-ed in today's Washington Post. As you can see, it's filled with more of the same misleading rhetoric that the administration and the leadership in the House have been pushing in recent weeks. It fails to discuss the responsible, compromise bill that passed the Senate without a single objection earlier this year. And, rather than talk about the controversial, intrusive provisions of the Patriot Act, it focuses on the provisions that everyone supports.

Please continue to contact your Senators to urge them to oppose cloture and insist that a Patriot Act reauthorization bill include the modest but crucial reforms that we have recommended and keep sharing your thoughts with me here.



http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/12/14/15141/460


press conference
http://feingold.senate.gov/~feingold/statements/05/12/2...

Letter
This morning, the SAFE Act cosponsors released a "Dear Colleague" letter
http://feingold.senate.gov/Patriot_Act_Dear_Colleague121405.pdf
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:22 PM
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29. Give 'em hell, Harry!
Yes! Yes! Yes! I would love to see the PA go down in flames.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:27 PM
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30. Time to get to Washington, Mr. Smith
And bring Jimmy Stewart with you.

All hands on deck.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:36 PM
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31. woot!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:15 PM
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32. Hallelu... uh oh.
The House just passed it.

I'm glad Reid supports the filibuster, but now 38 more senators
have to join up.

Sue
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 06:01 PM
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34. good.
Stephen Pizzo isn't feeling as good about Harry today:
http://www.newsforreal.com/
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 06:42 PM
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35. Thank you Senator. Harry Reid has a posse nm
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 06:44 PM
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36. Go Harry!
Lead they way, brother!!!
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 06:45 PM
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37. Yes! Man, do we love Feingold or what?
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 06:46 PM
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38. Can we finally, FINALLY have the nuclear option attempt?
I want to see it blow up in Frist's face.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 07:04 PM
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39. Opposition to this administration and selective enforcement
Of the patriot act to those who oppose their Ideology as suspected terrorist, giving the pnac a total green light, though they drive recklessly with the whole country aboard disregarding opposition from the passengers, with no checks and balances and bazaar secretiveness in this administration, is like letting your pit bull walk your baby. My question is who ( in our government) is governing the pnac crowd?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 09:14 PM
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40. I was just saying that I see signs of hope in the Dems
they are still sort of confused and mostly spineless.

But that's a helluva lot better than they have been.
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rqstnnlitnmnt Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:40 PM
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41. now what about those 44 dems in the house
who voted for those reauthorized provisions.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:56 PM
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42. About Effin' time they stand up together. Now where are the sniveling
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 10:57 PM by leesa
DLCers, or do they need to check with the involved corporate heads first for permission to mount a tepid response.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:53 AM
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43. Harry, I love you. You gave 'em Hell. Radicalize Harry, NOW!
He will be come the "master of disaster."

Harry Reid, D, NV, US Senate Minority Leader :yourock:
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:42 AM
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44. Hazzah!!! To our Senate Leader n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:43 AM
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45. If freedom is to be preserved,
it will be up to the Senate and those willing to filibuster.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:57 AM
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46. I truly can't believe ANY Dem would vote to renew/extend the POS.
:puke: WTF?
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:14 AM
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47. I hope that the Dems stand up for something, This bill should be renamed

..the anti-Liberty, Bill of no-Rights, Fascist Act...

even the Liberetarians are voting against it.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:05 AM
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48. Major Tinfoil hat time....
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 10:10 AM by Javaman
My fear is once the Patriot act is defeated, moron* and his room full of dopes will allow another attack to happen. LIHOP. Then they will say, "see if we had the Patriot act, we could have prevented this, blah blah blah" then the real crackdown on our constitutional rights will really begin.

I put nothing past these bastards.

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:10 AM
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49. Damned if we do and damned if we don't. Clearly we are at the
mercy of this evil regime. :-( :scared: :hide:
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:19 AM
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50. Amazing, an opposition leader will vote against awful
legislation.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:45 PM
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51. Congressmen/Women that voted against McCains
These Congressmen/Women voted NAY on Senator McCains introduction into the Defense Appropriations Bill the NonTorture Legislation.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?r109:5:./temp/~r10910R950::

NAYS--122

Aderholt, Akin, Baker, Barrett (SC), Barton (TX), Bilirakis, Bishop (UT), Blackburn, Blunt, Boehner, Bonilla, Bonner, Bono, Brady (TX), Brown (SC), Burgess Burton (IN), Buyer, Calvert, Campbell (CA), Cannon, Cantor, Carter, Chabot, Coble, Cole (OK), Conaway, Crenshaw, Cubin, Culberson, Deal (GA), DeLay, Doolittle, Drake, Dreier, Everett, Feeney, Fossella, Foxx, Franks (AZ), Frelinghuysen, Gallegly, Garrett (NJ), Gillmor, Gingrey, Gohmert, Goode, Granger, Graves, Hall, Hart, Hastings (WA), Hayes, Hayworth, Hefley, Hensarling, Herger, Hobson, Hoekstra, Hostettler, Hunter, Istook, Jindal Johnson, Sam King (IA), King (NY), Kingston, LaHood, Lewis (CA), Lewis (KY), Linder, Lucas, Lungren, Daniel, E. Marchant Marshall, McHenry, McKeon, Mica, Miller (FL), Miller, Gary, Musgrave, Myrick, Neugebauer, Ney, Norwood, Nunes, Oxley, Pearce, Pence, Peterson (PA), Poe, Price (GA), Putnam, Radanovich, Rehberg, Renzi, Rogers (AL), Rogers (KY)

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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:11 PM
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52. This one's going to get ugly. You know how they're going to spin this.
I'm not saying he's off-base, just giving a heads up.
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